[WTCC] 2017 WTCC News & Rumours

[S griffin]

Guerreri now in, let's hope he can manage to do the full season. Certainly the series seems to making the best of a bad situation

[Fulvio]

Here are the results of the first morning of Monza test:

1. Rob Huff (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'52"888, 35 laps
2. Mehdi Bennani (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'53"665, 39 laps
3. Nestor Girolami (Volvo S60 WTCC) 1'54"277, 27 laps
4. Thed Björk (Volvo S60 WTCC) 1'54"470, 34 laps
5. Yvan Muller (Volvo S60 WTCC) 1'54"490, 24 laps
6. Yann Ehrlacher (LADA Vesta WTCC) 1'54"811, 43 laps
7. Tom Chilton (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'55"121, 32 laps
8. John Filippi (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'55"386, 9 laps
9. Tiago Monteiro (Honda Civic WTCC) 1'59"139, 4 laps
10. Alberto Cerqui (Chevrolet RML Cruze TC1) 2'18"683, 12 laps
11. Norbert Michelisz (Honda Civic WTCC), 0 laps
12. Ryo Michigami (Honda Civic WTCC), 0 laps

[toto92]

Full season entry list for 2017. No surprise, 16 cars, the second Lada is still TBA.

https://www.fiawtcc.com/champions-an...for-open-wtcc/

[Tarzaan]

Originally Posted by Cinghio44

No, Cerqui has no personal sponsor to do the Wtcc. He will focus again with BMW and probably in the Italian GT championship.

I miss D'Aste and Thompson from the grid. It's a shame they have no backup to race in the series.

[Tarzaan]

Originally Posted by Fulvio

Here are the results of the first morning of Monza test:

1. Rob Huff (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'52"888, 35 laps
2. Mehdi Bennani (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'53"665, 39 laps
3. Nestor Girolami (Volvo S60 WTCC) 1'54"277, 27 laps
4. Thed Björk (Volvo S60 WTCC) 1'54"470, 34 laps
5. Yvan Muller (Volvo S60 WTCC) 1'54"490, 24 laps
6. Yann Ehrlacher (LADA Vesta WTCC) 1'54"811, 43 laps
7. Tom Chilton (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'55"121, 32 laps
8. John Filippi (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'55"386, 9 laps
9. Tiago Monteiro (Honda Civic WTCC) 1'59"139, 4 laps
10. Alberto Cerqui (Chevrolet RML Cruze TC1) 2'18"683, 12 laps
11. Norbert Michelisz (Honda Civic WTCC), 0 laps
12. Ryo Michigami (Honda Civic WTCC), 0 laps

No Zengő Honda in the test. Not a good sign. Imho both of their drivers - and their mechanics too - need some kilometers before the first race.

[Racing Harz]

#DriverTeamCar3Tom ChiltonSébastien Loeb RacingCitroën C-Elysée5Norbert MicheliszJASHonda Civic8Aurélien PanisZengöHonda Civic9Tom CoronelROALChevrolet Cruze12Rob HuffMünnich MotorsportCitroën C-Elysée18Tiago MonteiroJASHonda Civic25Mehdi BennaniSébastien Loeb RacingCitroën C-Elysée27John FilippiSébastien Loeb RacingCitroën C-Elysée34Ryo MichigamiJASHonda Civic61Néstor GirolamiPolestar Cyan RacingVolvo S6062Thed BjörkPolestar Cyan RacingVolvo S6063Nick CatsburgPolestar Cyan RacingVolvo S6068Yann EhrlacherRC MotorsportLada VestatbaEsteban GuerrieriCampos RacingChevrolet CruzetbaDániel NagyZengöHonda CivictbatbaRC MotorsportLada Vesta

[Metzo]

2017 WORLD TOURING CAR CHAMPIONSHIP ENTRY LIST

No – Driver – Nat – Team – Car
3 – Tom Chilton – GBR – Sébastien Loeb Racing – Citroën C-Elysée WTCC
5 – Norbert Michelisz – HUN – Honda Racing Team JAS – Honda Civic WTCC
8 – Aurélien Panis – FRA – Zengő Motorsport – Honda Civic WTCC
9 – Tom Coronel – NED – ROAL Motorsport – Chevrolet RML Cruze TC1
12 – Rob Huff – GBR – Münnich Motorsport – Citroën C-Elysée WTCC
18 – Tiago Monteiro – POR – Honda Racing Team JAS – Honda Civic WTCC
25 – Mehdi Bennani – MOR – Sébastien Loeb Racing – Citroën C-Elysée WTCC
27 – John Filippi – FRA – Sébastien Loeb Racing – Citroën C-Elysée WTCC
34 – Ryo Michigami – Honda Racing Team JAS – Honda Civic WTCC
61 – Néstor Girolami – ARG – Polestar Cyan Racing – Volvo S60 TC1
62 – Thed Björk – SWE – Polestar Cyan Racing – Volvo S60 TC1
63 – Nicky Catsburg – NED – Polestar Cyan Racing – Volvo S60 TC1
68 – Yann Ehrlacher – FRA – RC Motorsport – Lada Vesta WTCC
TBC – TBC – TBC – RC Motorsport – Lada Vesta WTCC
TBC – Esteban Guerrieri – TBC – Campos Racing – Chevrolet RML Cruze TC1
TBC – Daniel Nagy – TBC – Zengő Motorsport – Honda Civic WTCC

[Fulvio]

Originally Posted by Tarzaan

No Zengő Honda in the test. Not a good sign. Imho both of their drivers - and their mechanics too - need some kilometers before the first race.

Yesterday both Nagy and Panis were here in Monza. The cars were not ready with the 2017 modifications to be taken to the track, that's why they were not testing.

Even Esteban Guerrieri is here, I talked to him yesterday evening

[Fulvio]

Here are the results of the second morning of Monza test:

1. Rob Huff (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'52"497, 33 laps
2. Tom Chilton (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'53"682, 34 laps
3. Alberto Cerqui (Chevrolet RML Cruze TC1) 1'53"926, 36 laps
4. Nestor Girolami (Volvo S60 WTCC) 1'54"107, 4 laps
5. John Filippi (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'54"164, 37 laps
6. Mehdi Bennani (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'54"307, 39 laps
7. Tiago Monteiro (Honda Civic WTCC) 1'54"568, 31 laps
8. Ryo Michigami (Honda Civic WTCC), 1'54"682, 32 laps
9. Norbert Michelisz (Honda Civic WTCC), 1'55"105, 25 laps

- Honda is still testing things and totally not interested in lap times.
- Both Björk and Muller were not using official timekeeping sensors, so no official times for them.
- Rc Motorsport went home, so no second day of testing for Yann Ehrlacher's Lada Vesta.

[thetool]

Reminding me of the dodgy behind- closed doors deals SRO were doing in the dying days of GT1.

[thlbtcc]

Originally Posted by thetool

Reminding me of the dodgy behind- closed doors deals SRO were doing in the dying days of GT1.

Oh, not heard of those, please enlighten or point me in the right path?

[thlbtcc]

Originally Posted by Fulvio

- Rc Motorsport went home, so no second day of testing for Yann Ehrlacher's Lada Vesta.

A complete lack of sponsors on the car, no second day of testing and no testing at all for the second driver. Looks a bit risky and very last minute to me.

[toto92]

Originally Posted by thlbtcc

A complete lack of sponsors on the car, no second day of testing and no testing at all for the second driver. Looks a bit risky and very last minute to me.

The WTCC desperately needed cars. I don't think it impossible that they got some "support" from the organisers to run the cars in this season - but only enough for run the cars.

[thetool]

Originally Posted by thlbtcc

Oh, not heard of those, please enlighten or point me in the right path?

It was quite a while ago now so hard to find links. Essentially the GT1 championship became a series for re-branded GT3 cars. In the final series, to meet the obligations to commercial partners SRO were essentially funding sections of the grid (obviously not sustainable).

16 cars was the minimum requirement, and usually there'd only be about 3/4s of that requirement with a few weeks to go before each season, at which point SRO stepped in and funded the remaining entries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_F...d_Championship

You can see from the final season when it all fell apart. Essentially the "Team Russia" and "Team China" entries weren't genuine entries.

[thetool]

Originally Posted by thlbtcc

Oh, not heard of those, please enlighten or point me in the right path?

Originally Posted by toto92

The WTCC desperately needed cars. I don't think it impossible that they gave some "support" from the organisers to run the cars in this season - but only enough for run the cars.

That's almost certaintly exactly what has happened. One or two seasons of that can be sustained perhaps. It sees them fulfil their commercial arrangements with the minimum grid size of 16 met.

All of those 16 don't need to be competitive, so the "extra" entries will be run to the bare-minimum.

[thlbtcc]

Originally Posted by thetool

It was quite a while ago now so hard to find links. Essentially the GT1 championship became a series for re-branded GT3 cars. In the final series, to meet the obligations to commercial partners SRO were essentially funding sections of the grid (obviously not sustainable).

16 cars was the minimum requirement, and usually there'd only be about 3/4s of that requirement with a few weeks to go before each season, at which point SRO stepped in and funded the remaining entries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_F...d_Championship

You can see from the final season when it all fell apart. Essentially the "Team Russia" and "Team China" entries weren't genuine entries.

Thank you, that's very interesting!

[Fulvio]

Originally Posted by thlbtcc

A complete lack of sponsors on the car, no second day of testing and no testing at all for the second driver. Looks a bit risky and very last minute to me.

Originally Posted by toto92

The WTCC desperately needed cars. I don't think it impossible that they got some "support" from the organisers to run the cars in this season - but only enough for run the cars.

Perfectly pointed out, I totally agree with both of you!

Same idea came to me seeing them running yesterday, and this morning when leaving

[thlbtcc]

Originally Posted by Fulvio

Perfectly pointed out, I totally agree with both of you!

Same idea came to me seeing them running yesterday, and this morning when leaving

Maybe they try to get Tarquini to drive for free+expenses, if not someone else will fill in with the same deal?

[redshoes]

Not just GT1, that sort of thing happened in the old SuperTouring ETCC, before S2000 manufacturer entries came in. I know of at least one team that got under-the-table 'start money', and I'm sure they weren't the only ones.

[Fulvio]

Here are the results of the second afternoon of Monza test:

1. Rob Huff (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'52"600, 29 laps
2. Tom Coronel (Chevrolet RML Cruze TC1) 1'53"255, 28 laps
3. Tom Chilton (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'53"340, 52 laps
4. Tiago Monteiro (Honda Civic WTCC) 1'53"509, 25 laps
5. Norbert Michelisz (Honda Civic WTCC), 1'53"591, 16 laps
6. Mehdi Bennani (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'53"789, 41 laps
7. Ryo Michigami (Honda Civic WTCC), 1'54"522, 48 laps
8. Thed Bjork (Volvo S60 WTCC) 1'54"800, 32 laps
9. John Filippi (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'54"805, 40 laps

In the afternoon were Girolami and Muller the two Volvo drivers not using official timekeeping sensors.

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So this is the final classification of the two-days test in Monza
1. Rob Huff (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'52"497
2. Tom Coronel (Chevrolet RML Cruze TC1) 1'53"255
3. Mehdi Bennani (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'53"336
4. Tom Chilton (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'53"340
5. Yann Ehrlacher (LADA Vesta WTCC) 1'53"364
6. Tiago Monteiro (Honda Civic WTCC) 1'53"509
7. Norbert Michelisz (Honda Civic WTCC), 1'53"591
8. Nestor Girolami (Volvo S60 WTCC) 1'54"277
9. Ryo Michigami (Honda Civic WTCC), 1'54"522
10. John Filippi (Citroën C-Elysée WTCC) 1'54"164
11. Yvan Muller (Volvo S60 WTCC) 1'54"346
12. Thed Björk (Volvo S60 WTCC) 1'54"470

[Mark0994]

Monteiro had an accident with kart so he will miss season start at Morocco
http://www.serbiaring.com/vesti/mont...k-wtcc-sezone/

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by Mark0994

Monteiro had an accident with kart so he will miss season start at Morocco
http://www.serbiaring.com/vesti/mont...k-wtcc-sezone/

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[Mark0994]

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[Matt]

Take nothing seriously today.

[FIRE]