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Old 9 Jan 2008, 21:55 (Ref:2102951)   #1
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anyone fancy doing or no anything about this http://www.historicmodsports.com/Hom...2/Default.aspx
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Old 9 Jan 2008, 22:47 (Ref:2103000)   #2
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Well, this was put forward on here awhile back but if I recall correctly, things went a little awry! At least we now know that this appears to be a serious attempt at getting these cars out. My concern is how many of the modsports remain; surely most of those fabulous wide wheel arched E-types, Tuscans and Elans were converted back to original spec. because of their value. Modsaloons may be a better bet, however. There really is nothing on that website yet; let's see how it develops. If it gets off the ground and there are enough cars to get a decent grid, then fantastic, and I wish the series well; I'd love to see some of those cars out again.
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Old 10 Jan 2008, 07:46 (Ref:2103174)   #3
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Well, this was put forward on here awhile back but if I recall correctly, things went a little awry! At least we now know that this appears to be a serious attempt at getting these cars out. My concern is how many of the modsports remain; surely most of those fabulous wide wheel arched E-types, Tuscans and Elans were converted back to original spec. because of their value. Modsaloons may be a better bet, however. There really is nothing on that website yet; let's see how it develops. If it gets off the ground and there are enough cars to get a decent grid, then fantastic, and I wish the series well; I'd love to see some of those cars out again.
I hope it succeeds as I love them - I recall the spaceframe skoda's etc as a young teenager at Silverstone! John there was that modsports E Type at the Walter Hayes, there is a ridiculously proced Turner on the market at the moment and a modsports Elan so they are there!
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Old 10 Jan 2008, 08:36 (Ref:2103209)   #4
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John there was that modsports E Type at the Walter Hayes,
Yes, destined for Heritage GT, I believe. I'm sure I pictured it on the WHT thread. Not outrageous enough in terms of wheel arches and wide tyres though!
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Old 10 Jan 2008, 08:47 (Ref:2103224)   #5
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it seemed pretty outrageous when lined up next to it with Dunlop M's on my car!
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Old 10 Jan 2008, 08:53 (Ref:2103230)   #6
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most modsports cars are running with HTP's now aren't they
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Old 10 Jan 2008, 23:51 (Ref:2103878)   #7
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As has been said above and before in other thread a lot of these cars don't exist anymore and I think Masters/Top Hat are half inviting them in.

It would be interesting to see this take off but the only car I can think of off the top of my head that is still racing today is Tony Davies in his Firenza, I don;t know of any ohters and would be very surprised if any turned up.
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most modsports cars are running with HTP's now aren't they
And the modifications made to these cars in period have not been removed in most cases, which goes to show how useless a regulation the HTP;s are
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Joking apart, if you look at AppK, there is a category called 'historic specials' that surely covers Modsports cars, so no reason why one shouldn't have HTP? As long as it is presented in period configuration, which is up to owner / applicant to prove. What that HTP doesn't do is allow that car to run against those from other categories- unless the race organiser deems it OK. Having said that, I can't see why you would want an expensive HTP on a Modsports car, as those that are racing now are doing so away from FIA interference!

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Old 13 Jan 2015, 09:54 (Ref:3492425)   #10
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surely the whole point of 70's modsports was that there were no rules other than silhouette.. if you think back to those wonderful skoda's etc in which case no spec would have been homologated and therefore no HTP - and that os why we love them so much!! It is a great shame that a F5000 or T70 and all the other cars that were used under the bodywork are now worth more than the modsport car and so they have largely been consigned to history..

btw I think the historic specials referred to were more like the one off jaguar engined sports racers which competed in the 50's

I know this is a long way from a modded up Healey so apologies for going off thread!
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surely the whole point of 70's modsports was that there were no rules other than silhouette.. if you think back to those wonderful skoda's etc in which case no spec would have been homologated and therefore no HTP - and that os why we love them so much!! It is a great shame that a F5000 or T70 and all the other cars that were used under the bodywork are now worth more than the modsport car and so they have largely been consigned to history..

btw I think the historic specials referred to were more like the one off jaguar engined sports racers which competed in the 50's

I know this is a long way from a modded up Healey so apologies for going off thread!
Simon, Modsports were quite tightly regulated IIRC. It was Special/SuperSaloons that morphed into Donington GTs that were free spec and so great in the 70s/80s
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Old 11 Jan 2008, 14:01 (Ref:2104221)   #12
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I had a couple of modsports spridgets. The better one (coil springs , big discs etc.) ended up in Japan with a collector.
I should have thought that unless they were very special many will have been scrapped.
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Old 11 Jan 2008, 16:46 (Ref:2104320)   #13
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Well i have clicked on the link to subscribe but nothing seems to happen i hope it takes off as i know of at least 5 space frame imps and would be nice to get peter thurston in his escort and bill richards in his metro out and im sure big andy knows of a few special saloon up north

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My first racing car was a magenta colour GT6."dont ask me why please" Modsports seemed like a good place to start racing.It took me and 2 friends 2years to build and the car was not very good.The straight 6 sounded wonderfull and noisy no silencers in those days.I only raced the car 5 times in 1977 with a 3rd in class at Brands when everyone had broke down including Mr Palmer" propshaft fell off" . If anyone has any photos of my old car i would love to see them please. As far as i know it was the one and only modsports GT6 racing at that time.
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Old 12 Jan 2008, 11:50 (Ref:2104674)   #15
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Here's an example of some of the cars at a BRSCC meet at Combe in September 1976. Elsewhere Mansell in in a FF, Needell in FF2000, Davina/Divina Galica featured in a couple of races, Whizzo Williams in a Renault 5, Bob Toleman, The Streaker..... oh the memories
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When I spoke to Chris last season he was very keen to get it going, but nothing seems to have happened. He believed that there were quite a few cars about. There must be several Turners, Davrians, Spridgets etc.
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It would be nice indeed to see a smattering of Elans, Porsches, Midgets, Ginettas, Triumphs, Davrians and maybe if it still exisits the Blackbrick/Superbrick Caterham that Rob Cox used to pedal so well. What ever happended to that?
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There are a few suitable cars in Ireland. I have a couple of Imps, one on the button and there are at least 2 others here which are running. Also 4 Modsport Midgets and the TMC Costin...........

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I spoke to Chris yesterday about this and he is still out to make it work.

It seems the website developer he was using has health problems and he is now looking for someone who can help him finish the website. If there is anyone out there he said please contact him via his number or email address which are both on the site.

He wants to find people with cars this year and give people time to get them sorted out and then have some races in 2009 to see how popular it is.

He is looking for proper modsports cars. No thundersalons or silhouettes or bike engined cars.

Off the top of my head I think the regs are looking along the lines of:

It must have the original chassis but there is no problem with adding spaceframe to it. Engines must be from the original family of the engine originally in the car and engines and gearboxes must be located in the same place. No mapped (electronic) fuel injection is allowed but the original Lucas mechanical will be. Classes are looking something like upto 1300. 1300 to 1600. 1600 to 2000. over 2000.

Other wise big slicks, wheelarches, wings etc.. I think the cut off date is 1982.

I might be wrong on some of these points but I think they're about right. Best thing is to give him a ring and have a chat.

He definitely wants to get some momentum going.
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there was a bubble arched E type at the Stoneleigh auction, I dod wonder whether Mr Drabble might bid as his conveyance of a weekday morning to catch the Hampshire to city Thumper!
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John Fletcher still has his Modsports Elan, i was told John (plastic) Pearson still has the Xk, the guy trying to start the series has his car for sale! my hero was Brian Hough Tvr Tuscan, i have been involved with Tvrs since i saw his car at Aintree in 73, happy days, regards Alan.
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John Fletcher still has his Modsports Elan, i was told John (plastic) Pearson still has the Xk, the guy trying to start the series has his car for sale! my hero was Brian Hough Tvr Tuscan, i have been involved with Tvrs since i saw his car at Aintree in 73, happy days, regards Alan.

Hi i have the Trans XL mini Marcos, car ready to race.
5 times modsports champion. would love to give it a go.
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Hi i have the Trans XL mini Marcos, car ready to race.
5 times modsports champion. would love to give it a go.
Steve Roberts's old car? Be nice to see it out-and-about again. Have you been in touch with Steve about it?
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I was going to do a copy of Brian Houghs big Tvr Tuscan from 73, built the car still got it, but! the body was so nice didn't have the guts to flare the arches, My dream is to see a line up of Modsports from the 70s, regards Alan.
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Two excellent questions SD! They would certainly require upgrading and given the nature of the beasts the structural integrity, level of prep and safety enhancements would require close policing. The simple answer to the second question is 'no' .... but some of us would sure as hell like to see these cars out again.
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