Romain Grosjean..

[Fiorentina 1]

Sorry, but this guy is worse then Piquet. At least Piquet didn't keep crashing. I also don't recall Piquet ever qualifying on the last row. Come on Flavio put Bourdais in the car! Or at least Lucas di Grassi in for Monza.
Grosjean needs to go back to Geneva and back to work at the bank. He's not cut out for F1.

[Racenut7]

check the 2008 Australian Grand Prix qualifying results

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Au...x#Qualifying_2

[OZ_HCR32]

Woh, he stole my girlfriend and even i am not that quick to chop his career.

[ensign14]

He might face a penalty though. That was a singularly brainless bit of driving that ruined three drivers' races.

[ptclaus98]

Originally Posted by OZ_HCR32

Woh, he stole my girlfriend and even i am not that quick to chop his career.

[Super Hans]

It is far too early to write him off. I think he has a bright future, today's boneheaded blunder notwithstanding.

[jab]

Oh for God's sake. One mistake and people are calling for his head? So why not sack Button for being so slow in qualifying yesterday and putting him in that position?

He outbraked himself. Big deal. If it had been Alonso, no one would've said anything. If he gets a penalty, it'll just prove how ridiculous the stewarding is

[MagnetON]

From where I was sitting (the other end of the sofa from EP who disagrees with me) I think Button turned in when he shouldn't have. 50/50 in my eyes.

[M0T0RSP0RTDAN]

yeah it was a racing incident, he's new, get over it and give the guy a chance.

[strider]

It is the sort of incident for which Grosjean is known, but the Stewards have decided that no penalty is required.

I suppose a similar sort of argument applies to Alguersuari and Hamilton.

Monster conspiracy theory: Rookies gang up on Britain's finest!

[grantp]

Having read the reports about the GP2 races this weekend (and previously come to that) I was thinking that the BTCC boys must drive like saints by comparison.

A number of other open wheel formula seem to have similar issues - perhaps they feel indestructible.

Maybe it would be better not to import rookies in mid season in case they bring their dodgems habits with them to the world stage?

[Graz]

Give the guy a break. Anyone coming into F1 now has zero testing so it's an impossible situation.

The jury is out for me on Grosjean anyway because he seems inconsitent and erratic. He may have got to F1 a little too soon. However, it will not be fair to judge him until next season when he has some mileage under his belt.

The zero testing rule in F1 (and MotoGP for that matter) is daft. How are new guys meant to get up to speed?

[ralf fan]

How do you know this wasn't a pre-planned crash by Grosjean to make Alonso win.

[safc_fan89]

"At least Piquet didn't keep on crashing"...where have you been for the last year and a half?

[neilap]

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He claims Button took him out. Errr...
As I see it its 100% his fault. He was off line and outbraked himself. There is one line through that spot where they hit. Even if JB has run wide he was not off the track so Grosjean had no business poking his nose in. However, thats not the case, he rammed JB from behind...

I would not call for his head just yet. After all the whole thing started with Kimi running off the track and everyone behind checking up.

[fourWheelDrift]

Originally Posted by neilap

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He claims Button took him out. Errr...
As I see it its 100% his fault. He was off line and outbraked himself. There is one line through that spot where they hit. Even if JB has run wide he was not off the track so Grosjean had no business poking his nose in. However, thats not the case, he rammed JB from behind...

I would not call for his head just yet. After all the whole thing started with Kimi running off the track and everyone behind checking up.

And I have just been congratulating the stewards on giving him the benefit of the doubt rather than hand out a grid drop for the next race. The arrogant upstart should have the grace to accept his role in an incident for which he was largely responsible.

[Icebaby]

Originally Posted by Fiorentina 1

Sorry, but this guy is worse then Piquet.

Piquet was bad, I would give Grosjean another 2 races before placing him in the same catogery. Unfortunately whoever goes in the car appears to have to come from Flav's drivers which narrows the field down. Anthony Davidson whould be a good substitute.

[djinvicta]

Originally Posted by OZ_HCR32

Woh, he stole my girlfriend and even i am not that quick to chop his career.

She was a special goer then???

[nycuk]

Two words: Racing Accident.

Give the guy a break. Show me a driver who has never missed a breaking point and had a shunt as a result.

[Jamesy-18]

Come off it dude. It's only his second ever race! What do you expect? In the long term he'll be much better than Piquet.

[Flat12-Aircool]

Originally Posted by nycuk

Two words: Racing Accident.

Give the guy a break. Show me a driver who has never missed a breaking point and had a shunt as a result.

Lewis Hamilton out braked himself at the first turn in Fuji last year and hit NOBODY, but still got a drive through penalty.

Mr BigJohn rookie out brakes himself, takes out the Championship leader and nothing is done?

[JHamilton]

Originally Posted by fourWheelDrift

And I have just been congratulating the stewards on giving him the benefit of the doubt rather than hand out a grid drop for the next race. The arrogant upstart should have the grace to accept his role in an incident for which he was largely responsible.

I 2nd this ^.

[OZ_HCR32]

How many time has HAMO done a first corner speculator under brakes, either taking himself out of forcing the front two rows wide and/or off track? Hell i remember Hamo in his second year of F1 drive straight into the back of Alonso in almost a straight line (Was it Bahrain?)

Not saying Hamo did anything wrong and deserves to be dropped Just pointing out that this stuff happens, and to the best of them. He isnt special. Can understand why Button fans are upset though. I wanted to deck Vettel when he back ended Webber

[Lam Pak]

grosjean dont overshadow piquet. very disappointing, by now.

this feeling wouldn't leave me alone. ho pin tung would do beter than grosjean. renault goes china soon.

[strider]

In the Renault report of the race, Grosjean is claiming that Button took him out by turning in when he was already there. It's a point of view, I suppose, but nowhere else at all have I seen that interpretation put on what happened.