[WEC] 2017 WEC Season

[MaskedRacer]

Originally Posted by kvenom

No RGR this season according to Sportscar365, which means no Ligier JS17 either. Man the LMP2 grid looks pathetic, Rebellion, TDS and Alpine are the only ones confirmed.

Other than the entries I hope that they announce on Thursday that the WEC paid subscription service will allow full race replays for P.C. computers. I did not buy it last year for that reason. I actually think 2017 will be a better year for the series if they get GTE Pro right.

[TF110]

Posted this on the Toyota thread but it speaks about the possibility of a gte pro Labre Corvette and kcmg running a dallara.

[Mike E]

Originally Posted by kvenom

No RGR this season according to Sportscar365, which means no Ligier JS17 either. Man the LMP2 grid looks pathetic, Rebellion, TDS and Alpine are the only ones confirmed.

A second TDS-run car for G-Drive as well.

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/r...tds-run-oreca/

But still...

And no Ligiers!

[Coach Ep]

Let's see what we got at this point:

P1 (6)
2x Porsche
3x Toyota (1 part-time incl. LM)
1x Kolles

P2 (8?)
2x Rebellion
2x G-Drive/TDS
1-2x Alpine
1x Jota?
(all Orecas)
1x KCMG? (Dallara)

GTE-Pro (9?)
2x Ford
2x Ferrari
2x Porsche
1-2x Aston Martin
1x Corvette?

GTE-Am (4?)
1-2x Ferrari
1x Aston Martin?
1x Porsche?

in total a number of 25-27 seems likely, throw in an unexpected P2 and GTE-Am entry or two and it'll be close to 30.

Not much different than the averages for the series so far but (somewhat) underwhelming nevertheless.

[TzeiTzei]

Is it time to give GT3 a chance? Or DPi...

[Scorchess]

Originally Posted by TzeiTzei

Is it time to give GT3 a chance? Or DPi...

No, and hell no.

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by TzeiTzei

Is it time to give GT3 a chance? Or DPi...

They're brilliant classes but not right for WEC. BTCC is also brilliant, but lets keep that away from WEC too.

[TzeiTzei]

Originally Posted by Scorchess

No, and hell no.

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

They're brilliant classes but not right for WEC. BTCC is also brilliant, but lets keep that away from WEC too.

Why not?

[Akrapovic]

Because BoP classes have no place in a World Championship. You can obviously argue GTE has become one, and I'd agree and say that GTE should drop BoP and go back to being the best car wins. GT3 cars have their place in ACO Competition in the Michelin Le Mans Cup. Introducing them into the big show means even more BoP politics at Le Mans.

Similarly, DPi would mean manufacturer involvement in a private class. For the same reason I don't think Acura and Lexus should be allowed into GTD, I don't think DPi should be allowed into LMP1-L, and I don't think have yet another class, taking it to 5 is a good idea. I think DPi should be an invitational class at Le Mans, similar to the old IMSA class where you bring the best DPis to Le Mans in their own class.

However I also think DPi is a bad name for the class. These aren't Daytona Prototypes, and they don't race internationally. The class should be called LMP-A, or Prototype America. That's a more accurate description and you could do something cool with a logo with an American flag, and have a Prototype America class at Le Mans which would be cooooool.

But in regular WEC? Not really. I also don't think you should be putting P1s into IMSA, because it doesn't fit the vision.

These classes are awesome and fit their series well, but other than car count, I don't see what they'd add to the series.

[chernaudi]

I'd have to say that if not for Toyota having the brains and balls to bring a third car to some races, the prospect for new teams coming in within the next couple of years (including some possible returns when new rules coming into effect in a few years), and the ACO waking up and taking note of how they had been doing things lead to a house of cards situation, I'd say that road racing and motorsports in general is heading towards something like this:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...ameCrashOf1983

Or if you prefer:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_..._crash_of_1983

[Adam43]

I had a VIC-20 and I've been to Le Mans.

[chernaudi]

At least the ACO can draw inspiration from DPI should the present LMP1 class fall into oblivion or if they need to reign in costs and technology for 2020.

Of course, with Audi and BMW pushing for alternative forms of electrification (Audi for sure wanting a hydrogren fuel cell hybrid), I'm not sure how that'll fit in with cost reductions.

For 2017, though, we pretty much have what we have right now. Hopefully there'll be a surprise or two tomorrow.

[Dyson Mazda]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Because BoP classes have no place in a World Championship. You can obviously argue GTE has become one, and I'd agree and say that GTE should drop BoP and go back to being the best car wins. GT3 cars have their place in ACO Competition in the Michelin Le Mans Cup. Introducing them into the big show means even more BoP politics at Le Mans.

Similarly, DPi would mean manufacturer involvement in a private class. For the same reason I don't think Acura and Lexus should be allowed into GTD, I don't think DPi should be allowed into LMP1-L, and I don't think have yet another class, taking it to 5 is a good idea. I think DPi should be an invitational class at Le Mans, similar to the old IMSA class where you bring the best DPis to Le Mans in their own class.

However I also think DPi is a bad name for the class. These aren't Daytona Prototypes, and they don't race internationally. The class should be called LMP-A, or Prototype America. That's a more accurate description and you could do something cool with a logo with an American flag, and have a Prototype America class at Le Mans which would be cooooool.

But in regular WEC? Not really. I also don't think you should be putting P1s into IMSA, because it doesn't fit the vision.

These classes are awesome and fit their series well, but other than car count, I don't see what they'd add to the series.

The class isn't called DPi. It is called the P class and is made up of P2's and DPi's

[Scorchess]

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...a-le-mans.html

Toyota (finally) with 3 cars at Le Mans. Does not make up for the gaping hole that Audi left but it's really, really nice.

[Damian Baldi]

It looks like Joya and DC Racing will be partnering at the WEC after all

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/d...r-lmp2-effort/

[PorscheFanNo1]

Isnt the ACO press conference today, at around 1pm CET or so? Been awfully quiet about it, almost feels like I must be wrong.

[Giba]

Originally Posted by PorscheFanNo1

Isnt the ACO press conference today, at around 1pm CET or so? Been awfully quiet about it, almost feels like I must be wrong.

It is today at 4pm CET , and there is a live stream of the press conference as well.

[Rodger Davies]

Urgh, seems Hughes dC has completed his master plan of creating a P2 Oreca spec-class pretty much. Will be cheering on the Dallara.....

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by Dyson Mazda

The class isn't called DPi. It is called the P class and is made up of P2's and DPi's

Whether or not the class or the car is called that, the point I made is still valid. These aren't Daytona Prototypes and they don't run internationally, so where the name DPi comes from I don't know. But they are LMPs that run in America, so LMP-A, or even better, Prototype America, would be awesome.

And that'd be amazing at Le Mans. A proper Prototype America class, where all the American teams get to come over and either fight in the LMP2 class (if you have an LMP2 car), or in the Prototype America class if it's a DPi. That'd be coooooool.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Whether or not the class or the car is called that, the point I made is still valid. These aren't Daytona Prototypes and they don't run internationally, so where the name DPi comes from I don't know. But they are LMPs that run in America, so LMP-A, or even better, Prototype America, would be awesome.

They do run internationally, in Canada!

[Rodger Davies]

No Pro Corvette then and only 5 GT Am

[Giba]

All 10 WEC LMP2s are ORECAs

[Bcarr6]

24H Le Mans 2017

LMP1

Toyota Gazoo Racing - Toyota TS050 Hybrid
Toyota Gazoo Racing - Toyota TS050 Hybrid
Toyota Gazoo Racing - Toyota TS050 Hybrid
Porsche Racing - Porsche 919 Hybrid
Porsche Racing - Porsche 919 Hybrid
ByKolles Racing - ENSO CLM P1/01


LMP2

Vaillante Rebellion - Oreca 07
Vaillante Rebellion - Oreca 07
CEFC Manor TRS Racing - Oreca 07
CEFC Manor TRS Racing - Oreca 07
G-Drive Racing - Oreca 07
G-Drive Racing - Oreca 07
TDS Racing - Oreca 07
Signatech Alpine Matmut - Alpine A470
Signatech Alpine Matmut - Alpine A470
Jackie Chan DC Racing - Oreca 07
Jackie Chan DC Racing - Oreca 07
IDEC Sport Racing - LIgier JSP217
Dragonspeed - Oreca 07
Panis Barthez Competition - Ligier JSP217
SMP Racing - Dallara P217
Racing Team Nederland - Dallara P217
United Autosports - Ligier JSP217
Eurasia Motorsport - Ligier JSP217
Tockwith Motorsports - Ligier JSP217
Graff Racing - Oreca 07
Graff Racing - Oreca 07
Keating Motorsports - Riley MK30
Algarve Pro Racing - Ligier JSP217
Certilar Villorba Corse - Dallara P217
ARC Bratislava - Oreca 07


GTE PRO

AF Corse - Ferrari 488 GTE
AF Corse - Ferrari 488 GTE
Chip Ganassi Racing - Ford GT
Chip Ganassi Racing - Ford GT
Chip Ganassi Racing - Ford GT
Chip Ganassi Racing - Ford GT
Porsche GT - Porsche 911 RSR
Porsche GT - Porsche 911 RSR
Aston Martin Racing - Aston Martin V8 Vantage
Aston Martin Racing - Aston Martin V8 Vantage
Corvette Racing - Chevrolet Corvette C7.R
Corvette Racing - Chevrolet Corvette C7.R
Risi Competition - Ferrari 488 GTE

GTE AM

Spirit Of Race - Ferrari 488 GTE
Spirit of Race - Ferrari 488 GTE
Clearwater Racing - Ferrari 488 GTE
Clearwater Racing - Ferrari 488 GTE
Dempsey-Proton Racing - Porsche 911 RSR
Gulf Racing - Porsche 911 RSR
Aston Martin Racing - Aston Martin V8 Vantage
Labre Competition - Chevrolet Corvette C7
Scuderia Corsa - Ferrari 488 GTE
Scuderia Corsa - Ferrari 488 GTE
DH Racing - Ferrari 488 GTE
JMW Motorsport - Ferrari 458 Italia
Proton Competition - Porsche 911 RSR
Proton Competition - Porsche 911 RSR
TF Sport - Aston Martin V8 Vantage
Beechdean AMR - Aston Martin V8 Vantage







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[Bcarr6]

Big GT Grid!!

This must confirm no Corvette Pro entry this year with Labre running in Am at Le Mans


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[Bcarr6]

And 15 of 25 LMP2's are Oreca... so WEC is going to be pretty much entirely an Orecafest


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