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View Poll Results: Which driver is going to win the VASC Driver’s Championship In 2018?
#1 Jamie Whincup RBHRT Holden 6 14.63%
#2 Scott Pye WAU Holden 1 2.44%
#5 Mark Winterbottom Tickford Ford 0 0%
#6 Cameron Waters Tickford Ford 1 2.44%
#7 Andre Heimgartner NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#8 Nick Percat BJR Holden 0 0%
#9 David Reynolds Erebus Holden 1 2.44%
#12 Fabian Coulthard DJRTP Ford 1 2.44%
#14 Tim Slade BJR Holden 0 0%
#15 Rick Kelly NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#17 Scott McLaughlin DJRTP Ford 22 53.66%
#18 Lee Holdsworth Team18 Holden 0 0%
#19 Jack Le Brocq Tekno Holden 0 0%
#21 Tim Blanchard TBR Holden 0 0%
#23 Michael Caruso NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#25 James Courtney WAU Holden 1 2.44%
#33 Garth Tander GRM Holden 0 0%
#34 James Golding GRM Holden 0 0%
#35 Todd Hazelwood MSR Ford 0 0%
#55 Chaz Mostert Tickford Ford 4 9.76%
#56 Richie Stanaway Tickford Ford 1 2.44%
#78 Simona de Silvestro NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#97 Shane van Gisbergen RBHRT Holden 2 4.88%
#99 Anton de Pasquale Erebus Holden 1 2.44%
#230 Will Davison 23RED Ford 0 0%
#888 Craig Lowndes ALR Holden 0 0%
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Old 29 Jul 2018, 10:04 (Ref:3839821)   #2026
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This exactly, many people up and down pit lane spend money without leaving a trail of debts a'la Tekno.
When Roland Dane bought Briggs out I bet he spent money the team didn't have either....

So when is PHR going to enjoy some of this guaranteed "success"?
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Old 30 Jul 2018, 04:38 (Ref:3840097)   #2028
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So when is PHR going to enjoy some of this guaranteed "success"?
It's a red herring but I'll bite. PHR has not got the base to build with that DJR presented, it doesn't have the cachet to attract a leading sponsor to (even if Jim Beam were not paying the actual bills), PHR has not got a star driver, nor a very strong (or current) technical lead, as DJR had in 2010.
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Old 30 Jul 2018, 09:43 (Ref:3840133)   #2029
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DJR beat Triple Eight with a Triple Eight car.

Why isn't PHR doing the same?
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Old 30 Jul 2018, 10:27 (Ref:3840139)   #2030
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DJR beat Triple Eight with a Triple Eight car.

Why isn't PHR doing the same?
Because Adrian Burgess is at Tekno, Scott Sinclair is at Nissan, George Commens is at Nissan, James Courtney is Walking and uniting, Innov8 race engines team went their separate ways, T888 outsourced a large part of the Aero work on ZB so they wouldn't stretch themselves as thin in the transition from VF to ZB as they did when switching from Ford to Holden and Charlie is less happy to put his team into debt when he is the guy who will have to repay it?

Many factors, some small, some large. Mr Forklifts wasn't the primary reason for the championship win by DJR, even if he thought he was. Gotta be a reason the band has never managed to get themselves back together in the years since they all unceremoniously jumped overboard as the decks burned around them
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Old 30 Jul 2018, 10:42 (Ref:3840140)   #2031
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As above. The other argument I would make is that that the 888 FG was the best customer car ever. But then again if PHR had one it would be 5 years old with front suspension older than that, being driven by a driver who seems to be past his prime.

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Funny that when around this time last year I suggested a driver change in the #18 might be something that could help the team, I was howled down being told the driver isn't the issue....
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Funny that when around this time last year I suggested a driver change in the #18 might be something that could help the team, I was howled down being told the driver isn't the issue....
Chicken or egg, how do you attract a driver when the car is known to not be the latest spec. It doesn't flatter anybody.

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It's a red herring but I'll bite. PHR has not got the base to build with that DJR presented, it doesn't have the cachet to attract a leading sponsor to (even if Jim Beam were not paying the actual bills), PHR has not got a star driver, nor a very strong (or current) technical lead, as DJR had in 2010.
But, Milwaukee at 23RED?
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Some interesting rumours suggesting that Matt Stone racing will have a different badge on their car in the near future.
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Ouch, but I do feel like the pilot can give more than what he is showing recently. Maybe the devil you know.

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They've dumped the Super2 FG-X.

Not surprised if they put the VF back into service in the maingame. A little shopping at the house of Eights to bring it up to spec, will get it a bit further up the grid.
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They've dumped the Super2 FG-X.

Not surprised if they put the VF back into service in the maingame. A little shopping at the house of Eights to bring it up to spec, will get it a bit further up the grid.
There is apparently a spare ZB in that shed, and another car(s?) in build for 2019. The fella in #1 banged his pretty hard early on, wonder if a new chassis is on the way, freeing up that chassis for a customer.
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Mr Whincup likes his new chassis to arrive around September, so it's possible.
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Surely not a coincidence...

But surely you don't ask the sponsor to cover what was really a very bad decision in the first place!

Ford fans bemoan the lack of Fords on the grid but since 888 swapped, nobody has built one you'd want to race!
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But surely you don't ask the sponsor to cover what was really a very bad decision in the first place!

Ford fans bemoan the lack of Fords on the grid but since 888 swapped, nobody has built one you'd want to race!
Perhaps there was an expectation of a better quality of equipment delivered than was achieved for either Ford chassis. Happened from the sale of that team’s BA Falcons back in the day too, allegedly... they say history never re-peats (bloody song is in my head now..) but you just never know..
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Not many have seen success using an ex-DJR chassis. Only Mr McLean springs to mind at this point.

I'm sure if hindsight was applied, they'd saved a significant amount of money and heartache by upgrading the Super2 winner to ZB specs. At least you know you'll get customer assistance proportionate to what you're spending, from Triple Eight.
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Clearly they are not mucking around if they're going to drop $200k mid-season to change. Still, ouch.
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Not really surprising. DJRTP have stated in the past, they have little interest in customer cars. Would be very hard for a brand new team to set up a foriegn car with little data or support.


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It is their brand being spoken of as an ex-DJRTP chassis... how much is reputation actually worth?
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Given it's one of the oldest COTF chassis in the field, there can't be too much TP in it.
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Given it's one of the oldest COTF chassis in the field, there can't be too much TP in it.
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Using another acronym there IS too much TP in it. Maybe the team wiped it away...

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