Hans Device

[al_sami]

Thanks, so what do the flip ups do?

[tristancliffe]

They sit on the outside of a 2" shoulder strap, and stop it from sliding off, especially prior to and during belt tightening. Once they are fully tight they probably don't do a great deal that the high friction surface doesn't manage.

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by al_sami

Thanks, so what do the flip ups do?

A quick release for emergancies. Pull the tethers, and relase your harness cam lock and dive out of the car. That way your HANS may not get tangle up in the shoulder harness and delay your emergancy exit.

[al_sami]

Sounds good to me guys, I am going for this one on ebay

[Triple J Motorsport]

Seems to be different opion to what the flip up is....

I would want the "Hans" with the quick release tethers for emergancies.

Is it still possible to have hans post fitted to your helmet I have a less than year old expensive Bell without posts fitted (was an option).

How do you tell whats the correct angle without actually wearing it in the car? I have a digital level for setting wing angles, measure from vertical down onto my chest?

[JimW]

Flip-ups are to retain belts in the right place. Red straps are to release quickly the straps which restrain the helmet to the device.

Regards

Jim

[JNWRF01]

So long as the helmet is drilled and a 2005 Snell - you'll be fine - if not back to Bell. Anything with a Snell 2000 tag can't be retro fitted .

[Triple J Motorsport]

Originally Posted by JimW

Flip-ups are to retain belts in the right place. Red straps are to release quickly the straps which restrain the helmet to the device.

Regards

Jim

Jim

Do all the Hans come with both the above?

[Triple J Motorsport]

Originally Posted by JNWRF01

So long as the helmet is drilled and a 2005 Snell - you'll be fine - if not back to Bell. Anything with a Snell 2000 tag can't be retro fitted .

Jez

Sure it's a Snell 2005 but not drilled so back to Bell in the USA???

How did you work out what angle you'd need?

[JimW]

Originally Posted by Triple J Motorsport

Jim

Do all the Hans come with both the above?

Don't know. From the pics above the "HANS" and the "Schroth" versions look different. But that may just be age.


Have a look at http://www.saferacer.com/hans/?tagarray=10. If I interpret it correctly, the quick release tethers may just be an option. The flip-ups only appear on one of the versions of the device pictured.

No substitute for asking an expert or, better, two.

Regards

Jim

[JNWRF01]

Not sure if its Bell USA or agent in UK. Arai - the agent is in Stoke for eg. You need them to give you the FIA sticker for the Hans.

All single seaters are the same angle - i think the sizing only applies if you either have a neck th size of rhino or have non adjustable (in terms of direction) belts.

[tristancliffe]

Originally Posted by Triple J Motorsport

Jez

Sure it's a Snell 2005 but not drilled so back to Bell in the USA???

How did you work out what angle you'd need?

If that avatar is you (and I think it is) then you'll want a 30° without a shadow of a doubt. If you want to check can you try one in a paddock from someone you know, or go to a stockists like DT or GPR?

[andy97]

Originally Posted by Triple J Motorsport

Jim

Do all the Hans come with both the above?

No. the Stand 21 version comes with the side "flip ups" as illustrated in post#125. The Schroth version does not.

The quick release fastners are an optional extra, I think, & new innovation recently.

[johnw]

The optional quick release tethers have been available in the USA since HANS came on the market Andy.

[johnw]

Originally Posted by Triple J Motorsport

How did you work out what angle you'd need?

Have a look here http://hansdevice.com/Choosing-and-F...ur-HANS-Device

[blue nose]

Most of the FF drivers have gone for the 30.

[Eddy V]

For single seaters use either 30° or maybe the 25° if it is still available. Depends a bit on your size / seating position.
Quick release tethers are a bit a waste of money, as usually drivers take the Hans and helmet off at the same time.

But if you like them, feel free to buy them, us retailers will be happy.

Bell will only place the clips at their HQ, but will not drill holes in a helmet. Most other brands allow some of their dealers to do the work (never drilling).

[Peter Mallett]

So,

If you really want a HANS, buy a helmet with posts fitted already.

The flip ups do very little because the belts cross the front of the driver so tend to pull together in a frontal crash.

[johnw]

Originally Posted by Eddy V

Bell will only place the clips at their HQ, but will not drill holes in a helmet. Most other brands allow some of their dealers to do the work (never drilling).

From the HANS website
HELMET ANCHOR INSTALLATION
The HANS Device attaches to your helmet via two metal anchors. 90% of our customers install their own anchors

[Peter Mallett]

Good.

Doesn't suggest it's better just that 90% install them. Also it doesn't specify whether the customers are helmet manufacturers or independent racers.

My recommendation stands I'm afraid.

[johnw]

Originally Posted by Eddy V

Bell will only place the clips at their HQ, but will not drill holes in a helmet.

HELMET ANCHOR INSTALLATION
From the HANS website I linked to four posts earlier
The HANS Device attaches to your helmet via two metal anchors. 90% of our customers install their own anchors .........

[Eddy V]

US, I guess John?
FIA does not allow this, as all anchors that have been put on the helmet at a later stage need a special FIA sticker, to be placed on the helmet with an according number.
Ie if anyone would ever check that number they could see if it has been installed by a certified person / company.

Mail me that link John.

[johnw]

Done Eddy - yes it's US.
Apologies all for the double post

[goughy]

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