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26 Jan 2009, 12:45 (Ref:2379566) | #51 | |
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Croft Loses Appeal
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/4 ... se_appeal/
Potentially, the end of British Motorsport as we know it...? T'was nice while it lasted.... Just hope the 'aggreived parties' as well as these out of touch Judges can sleep easy in their beds safe in the knowledge that their own recreational and leisure pursuits are to continue... |
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Hope they fall off their ruddy horses during a 'banned' hunt chasing small innocent furry animals around and break their miserable necks.
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26 Jan 2009, 13:11 (Ref:2379584) | #53 | ||
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Anyone have a copy of (or knows how to get a copy of) the appeal decision?
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26 Jan 2009, 15:28 (Ref:2379663) | #54 | ||
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This is ridiculous. Motor sport has been, and always will be, noisy. I still can't get over the fact that British F3 can't visit Castle Combe due to noise restrictions. This Croft case makes me fear for the future.
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26 Jan 2009, 16:21 (Ref:2379689) | #56 | ||
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As a Marshal, there goes 1 of my away trips if croft closes
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26 Jan 2009, 16:35 (Ref:2379702) | #57 | ||
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This is pretty bad. It sets a very dangerous precedent that any further legal action can call on..
And not just for people complaining against Croft, but Castle Combe, Brands, Snetterton, and just about any circuit you can name. It basically opens the door for anyone living within a stone's throw of a circuit to claim compensation. Speaking of stones... I hope the complainants in this case save some of the money for window breakages when the angry mobs come a-callin'. |
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26 Jan 2009, 16:59 (Ref:2379714) | #58 | |
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anyone care to sit outside the residents house and knock on their door and complain and demand compensation when their dog barks, they use their lawnmower or they start their cars...
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The people that brought the action, in spite of previously gaining from the Circuit's activities when an ex family member was circuit manager AND wanting to build a hotel on the site which would obviously have profited from the operation of the track, claimed that they had no problem with weekend racing events but the number of track & test days had "ruined" their quality of life. |
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26 Jan 2009, 19:07 (Ref:2379839) | #62 | ||
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I bet they never complained to Hitler during the war when the lancasters took off - Way OTT I know just feeling vey agrieved. Marshaled there since 81.
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PRESS AND MEDIA INFORMATION
26th January 2009 For immediate release CROFT CIRCUIT - OFFICIAL STATEMENT Croft Promosport Ltd is extremely disappointed with the Court of Appeal's decision today in relation to the recent High Court Judgment, which has serious implications for the circuit and the motor racing industry generally. We are reviewing the position carefully and would not wish to make any further comment at this stage. ENDS From Croft circuit |
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26 Jan 2009, 21:14 (Ref:2379939) | #65 | ||
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The more complete story is here.
It's exceptionally bad news for: 1. Croft 2. BARC 3. Any other circuits with local residents who might follow suit. 4. Motorsport in this country. The refusal of the right to appeal to the House of Lords suggests this is the end of the road unless they can pull some legal precedent out of nowhere. |
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26 Jan 2009, 21:19 (Ref:2379945) | #66 | ||
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There is so much about this that is really grating me.
The woman who won this case used to be married to the guy that actually got Croft back up and running again. The fact that Croft have not done anything wrong, they were allowed to run the events they have been doing. I'm sure if the local council had restricted them they would have complied fully. The fact that when you stand on the pit wall you can hear trains from the east coast mainline over a Formula Ford. The fact that all activities are at a decent time of day, not like the railway or Teesside airport, or RAF Leeming. And its not like they are living in a city putting up with rowdy neighbours or boy racers at ridiculous times. This whole affair should have been dealt with much more fairly, some kind of referendum should have been held to decide on restrictions for Croft after the local community were consulted. Why on Earth should the greediness of 3 people in one family (who clearly have personal grievences) affect thousands. (The facebook group is already over 10,000) |
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I am only glad I actually made the trip up there last season (and managed to record it) as it looks like I may not get the opportunity again.
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The fact that the original ruling has now been overturned, the injunction (40 noisy days) granted and compensation and also costs awarded against Croft leaves the circuit very exposed not only to further costs from this case, but to further claims in the future. We may well look back on this case in a few years and see where the snowball started to roll... |
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They stick to the rules that were already imposed upon them, i really can't see what more they could do. Then again, this wasn't really about noise. Even a "road silenced" TVR (or similar) can sound pretty loud when driven as intended. |
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27 Jan 2009, 07:28 (Ref:2380239) | #71 | |
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RALLYCROSS AT CROFT
After the news yesterday has the last Rallycross car graced the fantastic northern circuit?
Its a discrace 3 people can do so much harm!!!! If so whats the future of the events run there? |
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27 Jan 2009, 08:01 (Ref:2380251) | #72 | ||
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What news is that? (From RX/ thread).
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27 Jan 2009, 08:27 (Ref:2380263) | #73 | ||
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The story chris cake is referring to is the Court case Croft lost, regarding a complaint made by 3 local residents regarding the noise made at track days in the week. More can be found on
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/new..._noise_appeal/ |
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I wonder how much of this was related to bad blood between the operating company and its owner's ex-wife, one of those who lodged the complaint. The legal bills alone will probably spell the end of motorsport there for some time. A very sad day for British motorsport.
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27 Jan 2009, 08:43 (Ref:2380277) | #75 | |
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Bigted .Im Alison . Where did you get that from ?
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