The weird & wonderful F1 cars.

[mixxer]

.........could have been just the 312T, 75 Lauda's championship winning car.

Yep thats the one.
http://www.ferrari-enthusiastic.com/...1975_312t.html

Some great pictures on that site, complete list
http://www.ferrari-enthusiastic.com/..._cars_lby.html

[Lotusonpole]

A little more on the Lotus 58 turbine car if my memory seves...
After the tragic loss of Jochen Rindt in the Type 72 at Monza in 1970, I seem to remember Lotus entering a single 58 in the same race the following year.
To avoid legal wrangles over JR's accident the team was entered as "Worldwide Racing" and the car was painted gold with a black nose.

Can anyone confirm please?

Cheers
Peter

[John Turner]

Two Connaughts both weird and wonderful:- the B- series streamliner from 1955 (remember the dinky toy version?) and the later (1957?) Tooth paste tube bodied car.

Another was the one and only Tec Mec, not finished until late 1959, fitted with a 250F Maser engine. Underfunded and underdeveloped and by that time, having its engine in the wrong place, it only appeared at the last GP (Sebring) of the season where it completed just 6 laps. Later restored by Tom Wheatcroft, I have since seen it at a number of historic events including the Goodwood Revival.

[Javi]

Not exactly weird but imaginative. Tyrell run 2 front wheels at the rear on practice for the 1996 german GP. Salo told that it was meant to be faster for qualifying, and Katayama did his best time of the day with that configuration. They had to change the gearing, suspension and underbody planck. Unfortunately, that car developed a water leak and had to be abandoned. Tyrell= no money, but always imaginative... Shame thay went out.

[mixxer]

Two Connaughts both weird and wonderful:- the B- series streamliner from 1955 (remember the dinky toy version?) and the later (1957?) Tooth paste tube bodied car.

Another useless fact -
Connaught was the first team to have thier own wind tunnel and the B series was the first car to be tested in that tunnel

[John Turner]

Originally Posted by Lotusonpole

A little more on the Lotus 58 turbine car if my memory seves...
After the tragic loss of Jochen Rindt in the Type 72 at Monza in 1970, I seem to remember Lotus entering a single 58 in the same race the following year.
To avoid legal wrangles over JR's accident the team was entered as "Worldwide Racing" and the car was painted gold with a black nose.

Can anyone confirm please?

Cheers
Peter

Peter, do we actually mean type 58 - I can't recall this car and having checked cannot find a reference to it in any books. Is it not the 56B, which, as you quite rightly state, was entered at Monza 1971 under the'Worldwide Racing' banner, for the reasons you describe? It was indeed gold and black and was incredibly dramatic looking but unfortunately, it wasn't as fast as it looked and finished 8th with Emmo at the helm.

[mixxer]

Snap again , we have to stop meeting like this

[mixxer]

56B was the turbine car from memory, had 4 wheel drive as well

[John Turner]

Originally Posted by mixxer

Snap again , we have to stop meeting like this

Well, it's morning over here and since I'm semi-retired and work from home (mostly), I usually start my day on 10-Tenths!

[QUOTE]56B was the turbine car from memory, had 4 wheel drive as well [QUOTE]

Yes, that's the one!

[Swiss]

I have had the pleasure of a guided tour of the Williams Mueseum at Grove and there is indeed a six-wheeler. All of the cars in the muesuem afre in fact kept in full working order which is an impressive featr itself. There is even a Ferrari F1 car in there given as part of a negotiation with Ferrari and Jean Alessi.

I know that Panther Cars worked on a six wheeler road car in the 80's.

[Lotusonpole]

[Peter, do we actually mean type 58]
Hi John...
yes you are absolutely right, it was the 56b.
My old dislexia is playing up again...

Also I found a site that has illustration profiles of many Lotus F1 cars including the 56b, that may be worth a gander...

www.f1-legend.com

Thanks and cheers
Peter

[Robert Duncan]

Originally Posted by Lotusonpole

Hi John
"I don't think the BT46B fan car was actually banned - see my post earlier!"

You are right. It is commonly reported as being banned though.
Probably Brabham pulled it before the rest ganged up and got it banned.

And I agree with the garden shed wing quip...well it looks like my old shed anyway...

And yes Williams did do a 6-wheeler, but I tink it had 4 rear wheels rather than like the tyrrell's 4 fronts.

Isn't age a wonderful thing...


Cheers...
Great thread for the ole memory box...pre-electronic paddle shift.
Peter

As I remember they didn't have to "ban" the BT-46B. It was just declared to have a movable airfoil (the fan), and movable airfoils are illegal.

[429CJ]

How about double rear wings, some samples:

Quirky looking but relatively good car Toleman TG183B

If this car didn't have wings it would look like Formula Ford, lack of sidepods making the impression: Ligier JS21

This double wing car was disqualified later from the results of Long Beach 1982 race: Ferrari 126C2

Someone mentioned odd front wing of the March 711 car, here's Ronnie Peterson in Monaco GP with March

More conventional looking, but similar placement: Theodore TY 01

[IL LEONE]

A good contribution 429CJ.

This ferrari was a prototype developed in 1969 with no intention on racing. it was merely a showcase of technology at the time SIGMA & another SIGMA2

This another odd looking Ferrari 312/B3

The Arrows A2 has to be one of my fav' looking cars of all time ARROWS
& A2 very

[Lotusonpole]

Hi Robert
agreed. It was classed as a movable aero device and was removed rather than an outright ban.

Also...
429CJ and IL LEONE...
Great pics. This stroll down memory lane is turning into a real route march.

It makes me miss the time designers had a lot more freedom.

Thanks.

Cheers
Peter