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Old 12 Jun 2011, 22:42 (Ref:2897537)   #76
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Le Mans is for sportscars! What does a deltawing jet plane design have to do with sportscars? This design should be applied in open wheel racing or single seater racing but not in sportscar racing. This car doesn't fit the sportscar metric is all I'm saying. New technology is a great thing, but you shouldn't be putting a round peg in a square hole. All of the lightweight technology and turbo-diesels can be tried and has been tried in sportscars at Le Mans. We encourage more cars like the turbines, electrics, hybrids, etc., we just don't encourage single-seater designs pretending to be sportscars. IRL should let them race, I would have no problem with that. The banked turns should keep it from turning on its side in the turns.

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I am absolutely with you. I can't see any very advanced new technology on that car besides the vector steering. Aero and all other parts are adopted by other motorsports series.
Le Mans is the crown of sports car racing and this car is not a sportscar. It's a kind of landspeed record car and I don't want to see these cars at Le Mans
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Old 13 Jun 2011, 21:58 (Ref:2898379)   #77
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Won't this vector steering make it handle like a tool cart, floor jack, or fork lift? None of those handle real well. They do have an excellent turning radius however.
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First car to go over the Dunlop bridge instead of under it. The landing will be a little hard though. If it ain't an Audi A.M. look out.
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Old 14 Jun 2011, 02:59 (Ref:2898524)   #79
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Roughly 13 months ago I suggested the ideas behind the Delta Wing come to sportscars

http://tentenths.com/forum/showpost....0&postcount=24

Now my wildest dream will come true

http://www.motorward.com/2011/06/del...-2012-le-mans/

This car will win top speed on the Mulsanne at just 325 HP

What do you think?
Great till a rook pulls over slightly in front of it.
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Old 14 Jun 2011, 03:04 (Ref:2898527)   #80
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Knock Knock. hmm. No one home.
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Old 14 Jun 2011, 07:15 (Ref:2898561)   #81
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Daftest thing since the Reliant Robin. I'm sure it could really fast in a straight line, but when it falls over in a corner, what's the point?
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Old 14 Jun 2011, 08:11 (Ref:2898583)   #82
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I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand, those guys are no fools.
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Old 14 Jun 2011, 08:19 (Ref:2898590)   #83
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Daftest thing since the Reliant Robin. I'm sure it could really fast in a straight line, but when it falls over in a corner, what's the point?
I don't think Ben Bowlby would have wasted his time and effort on the D-Wing project, for it to fall over while cornering.
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Old 14 Jun 2011, 09:25 (Ref:2898623)   #84
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I hate the whole idea about this car racing at Le Mans. The ACO has rightly promoted new technologies which could be transferred to road cars. This wing car concept can't be transferred to road cars - so where is the relevance in introducing this project?
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Well the gas Turbine Rover was never a viable road car option either and I fail to see why it shouldnt have an enthuisasts following is something similar was produced for the road, look at that silly open frame Atom thing, I see no sense in that either as a road car but someone obviously does.

Another thing everyone is banging on about the cornering, how many pictures have you seen of cars lifting a wheel during hard cornering effectively becoming three wheelers!
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Old 14 Jun 2011, 12:06 (Ref:2898722)   #86
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Le Mans is the perfect platform for new and innovative machines. It's IndyCar's loss, the are a dying series and this car could have actually generated some interest.

I'll bet Colin Chapman got some flack over introducing a rear engined car. Everyone hated the Brabham Fan Car, and I'll bet the Tyrrell P34 got some funny looks as well. No one had the internet to moan about them back then though.

At least the ACO isn't going down the F1 route of stifling anything new.
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I can see why the purists don't want the D-Wing at Le Mans but I like the fact the ACO is open minded enough to give it a go.
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Well the gas Turbine Rover was never a viable road car option either and I fail to see why it shouldnt have an enthuisasts following is something similar was produced for the road, look at that silly open frame Atom thing, I see no sense in that either as a road car but someone obviously does.
Though weren't Rover researching at the feasibility of gas turbines for road car use, based on their work with Whittle's early jet engines for the RAF late in WW2? That suggests more road car relevance than the Delta Wing appears to have at first sight.

Rover built several gas turbine cars apart from the BRM Le Mans car- and these were either based on Rover production chassis, or were very much 'road car' in concept. IIRC, the last, 'T4' was basically one of the prototypes for the P6 Rover 2000/3500
http://gallery.brit-cars.com/data//6..._0703_1139.jpg

I'm fairly open-minded on this so far- I can't help finding the whole concept faintly barking, but as DownF0rce said, it's not the first time someone's pitched up at Le Mans race with something totally out of left-field...

http://www.enciclopediadellautomobil...siluro-640.JPG

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Though weren't Rover researching at the feasibility of gas turbines for road car use, based on their work with Whittle's early jet engines for the RAF late in WW2? That suggests more road car relevance than the Delta Wing appears to have at first sight.

Rover built several gas turbine cars apart from the BRM Le Mans car- and these were either based on Rover production chassis, or were very much 'road car' in concept. IIRC, the last, 'T4' was basically one of the prototypes for the P6 Rover 2000/3500
http://gallery.brit-cars.com/data//6..._0703_1139.jpg

I'm fairly open-minded on this so far- I can't help finding the whole concept faintly barking, but as DownF0rce said, it's not the first time someone's pitched up at Le Mans race with something totally out of left-field...

http://www.enciclopediadellautomobil...siluro-640.JPG
I'm a little wary of some of the info on Wikipedia but this is interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_C...d_gas_turbines
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I'm confused as to how close you could be when reading multiple links with interviews with the designers no mention was ever made of it having been a 3 wheeler at any point.
I forget where I read it, so if you don't believe me, fine, I don't care, but I remember hearing it was a 3-wheeler originally. They only changed to 4 wheels when the FIA told them for it to run in a series under FIA sanction (which Indycar is under ACCUS), a car had to by definition have 4 wheels.
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