WEC Porsche Prototype Discussion - Page 338

**Aysedasi** · 30 May 2018, 21:15 (Ref:3825747)

Well, I guess that begs a question!

TF110 · 1 Jun 2018, 04:06 (Ref:3825956)

Have we ever seen a picture of the car with the engine in full view? Found this on Twitter, something for the techies here

**Adam43** · 1 Jun 2018, 20:13 (Ref:3826092)

They’re running an emerental link on the subaxle. Impressive that they got that to work - the potential in that system has been known for sometime.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 1 Jun 2018, 23:56 (Ref:3826142)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam43

They’re running an emerental link on the subaxle. Impressive that they got that to work - the potential in that system has been known for sometime.

I Googled that and it came up with: "Did you mean emerental stub axle"

GT6 · 2 Jun 2018, 05:30 (Ref:3826155)

i thought it was a foreign cheese

**Adam43** · 2 Jun 2018, 10:14 (Ref:3826177)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

I Googled that and it came up with: "Did you mean emerental stub axle"

Shows what google knows.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT6

i thought it was a foreign cheese

Mmmmm, fondue.

My obtuse point is that the actual tech is difficult to see, but packaging, that’s the impressive bit.

Victor_RO · 4 Jun 2018, 15:38 (Ref:3826766)

Sneaky just-deleted tweet from the Porsche LMP1 account suggests they are currently testing... at the Nordschleife.

EDIT: https://twitter.com/Porsche_Team/sta...63096739745792 Third time they've tried to post it.

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**Aysedasi** · 4 Jun 2018, 16:13 (Ref:3826768)

Why?

Victor_RO · 4 Jun 2018, 16:15 (Ref:3826769)

The obvious thought is they're targeting Bellof's 6:11.

**Aysedasi** · 4 Jun 2018, 16:24 (Ref:3826776)

My reaction is still 'oh whoopee doo'..... Going round the circuits, not competing, trying to set outright records still seems lame to me when they could be doing something useful....

GT6 · 4 Jun 2018, 16:42 (Ref:3826785)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

My reaction is still 'oh whoopee doo'..... Going round the circuits, not competing, trying to set outright records still seems lame to me when they could be doing something useful....

Agreed seems a complete waste of time and money to me, they could have spent the money on an entry for le mans, i am sure the ACO would have agreed to let 1 car in

S griffin · 4 Jun 2018, 17:07 (Ref:3826798)

I agree, surely if they have enough to do this, surely they had enough to do Le Mans

TF110 · 4 Jun 2018, 18:11 (Ref:3826819)

Or something like Pikes Peak. Just let it go there and reset the overall record.

deggis · 4 Jun 2018, 18:25 (Ref:3826825)

Quote:

Originally Posted by S griffin

I agree, surely if they have enough to do this, surely they had enough to do Le Mans

Are you serious... Sure probably enough to do a Le Mans entry, but one that is more comparable to a private-team in level and scale.

Still sad that that it is worth to do this instead of channeling the same money to their GT program or any other actual racing.

deggis · 4 Jun 2018, 18:27 (Ref:3826826)

Videos:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjnIaxYnXvE/
https://www.facebook.com/Nurburgring...0696025055343/

Truckosaurus · 4 Jun 2018, 18:31 (Ref:3826830)

I, for one, will be interested to see what sort of Nordschleife lap time they can do.

Of course it is ultimately meaningless, but it's a time that's stood for 35 years as no top level series has been racing there.

I suspect the cost of these lap attempts is minuscule compared to running an LMP car in an actual race and will earn them as much press.

Spyderman · 4 Jun 2018, 18:35 (Ref:3826833)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truckosaurus

I, for one, will be interested to see what sort of Nordschleife lap time they can do.

Of course it is ultimately meaningless, but it's a time that's stood for 35 years as no top level series has been racing there.

I suspect the cost of these lap attempts is minuscule compared to running an LMP car in an actual race and will earn them as much press.

+1

Juntos · 4 Jun 2018, 22:01 (Ref:3826857)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Going round the circuits, not competing, trying to set outright records still seems lame to me when they could be doing something useful....

Finally we got to agree on something.

TF110 · 5 Jun 2018, 00:00 (Ref:3826879)

Saw some posters on twitter saying that times are close to breaking the sub-5 minute barrier. Probably a minute+ faster than the record 6:11! Amazing if true.

Giba · 5 Jun 2018, 04:53 (Ref:3826893)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TF110

Or something like Pikes Peak. Just let it go there and reset the overall record.

Trying to remember the source, but think a run at Pikes Peak was planned until VW decided to do it with Dumas. Classic company politics

valedave · 5 Jun 2018, 13:01 (Ref:3826941)

This makes me unreasonably angry and I'm not really sure why...

Bellof's time was set in qualifying for a sanctioned, official event run to a certain set of regulations. It's part of Porsche's history, and a fantastic part of it to boot. It should be celebrated (as it has been), especially given what happened to that great talent two years later.

It just doesn't sit right with me if they go and smash that record using a car that isn't homologated or running to any set of rules, isn't competing in a race event and has unrestricted access to the circuit with no other cars to act as a distraction. The Spa time was a bit of fun, I guess, and good PR ("Quicker than F1!") – whatever. But I really really hope they don't go big on this one.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 5 Jun 2018, 13:12 (Ref:3826944)

Quote:

Originally Posted by valedave

This makes me unreasonably angry and I'm not really sure why...

Bellof's time was set in qualifying for a sanctioned, official event run to a certain set of regulations. It's part of Porsche's history, and a fantastic part of it to boot. It should be celebrated (as it has been), especially given what happened to that great talent two years later.

It just doesn't sit right with me if they go and smash that record using a car that isn't homologated or running to any set of rules, isn't competing in a race event and has unrestricted access to the circuit with no other cars to act as a distraction. The Spa time was a bit of fun, I guess, and good PR ("Quicker than F1!") – whatever. But I really really hope they don't go big on this one.

All it needs is for an F1 team to do the same.

valedave · 5 Jun 2018, 13:33 (Ref:3826945)

Do you mean try and "break the record"? You may be right, although I wouldn't say it's a foregone conclusion that a current-gen F1 car is quicker around the Nordschleife than this EVO thing.

GasperG · 5 Jun 2018, 13:37 (Ref:3826946)

I bet current gen F1 car is quicker when not run without rules restrictions, maybe even with the current rules, we will see at SPA.

Spyderman · 5 Jun 2018, 14:17 (Ref:3826954)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GasperG

I bet current gen F1 car is quicker when not run without rules restrictions, maybe even with the current rules, we will see at SPA.

Of course the current F1's will be quicker. They weigh far less (708Kg including driver vs 875 without driver and fuel), and although the F1 is "restricted" it is still far less than a "restricted" LMP1. They also have wider tires (305 mm Front and 405 mm rear) vs 310 mm all round for the 919

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