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Old 29 May 2009, 10:39 (Ref:2471487)   #1
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Prodrive enter for 2010 - AM in 2012?
Prodrive have submitted their entry to the 2010 F1 World Championship, joining USF1 and Campos and soon to be joined by Lola, Epsilon Euskadi and others. It will be under the Prodrive banner but with funding from the (very rich) Arabs

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75671

...but according to Autocar magazine, they will rebrand the team Aston Martin in 2012 if successful

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21517.html
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Old 29 May 2009, 11:17 (Ref:2471517)   #2
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Oh goody!

So far that's Williams,USF1,Campos,MetaF1 and Prodrive that have submitted entries.Lola are also expected to submit an entry,so that leaves just seven spots for nine teams....hmmm.

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Old 29 May 2009, 11:50 (Ref:2471535)   #3
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Lola are also expected to submit an entry......
Which they have just done.

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Old 29 May 2009, 11:54 (Ref:2471537)   #4
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I'm sceptical - how many of these teams will actually line up on the grid come March 2010?
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Old 29 May 2009, 11:57 (Ref:2471541)   #5
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I'm sceptical - how many of these teams will actually line up on the grid come March 2010?
The thirteen that are chosen by the FIA on June 12th.
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Old 29 May 2009, 12:05 (Ref:2471548)   #6
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ah ok - that makes a bit more sense....surely if this many "new" teams have stepped forward where were they when Honda was needing a buyer?
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Old 29 May 2009, 12:06 (Ref:2471549)   #7
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There's a bit of a difference between buying a massive F1 team (which at that point had no guarantee Honda would continue funding it) and running a new team out of your own factory with your own employees
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Old 29 May 2009, 12:48 (Ref:2471576)   #8
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Autosport also reported the Aston re-branding, but then removed the post and then replaced it with the one listed above, which contains nothing about Aston. I wonder if there was some kind of embargo on the press release. And why wouldn't they want to shout about having the Aston Martin name back in F1.
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Old 29 May 2009, 13:13 (Ref:2471589)   #9
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Lola's website doesn't reports anything about it; given how loudly they've announced their intention to evaluate this project, it makes me still unsure of it.
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There's a bit of a difference between buying a massive F1 team (which at that point had no guarantee Honda would continue funding it) and running a new team out of your own factory with your own employees

absolutely!

In particular I wonder how many newcomers would like to take over a squad and put 70% staff in redundancy
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Lola have now confirmed it - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75676
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Old 29 May 2009, 14:28 (Ref:2471627)   #12
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Do existing teams have 1st refusal on entry in 2010? or could 4 new teams be accepted (and Force India -for instance- bumped)
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I think there would be ructions if one of the current teams wasn't accepted and I should think FOTA wouldn't be very impressed
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All the current teams in F1 will be accepted as agreed with the FIA.
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I'm not sure about an Aston Martin branded F1 team - maybe it's just because they're not a traditional F1 'brand', but it just doesn't seem quite right. And it seems to me like a pretty big gamble to take with a name like that.
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Unlike Jaguar, Aston does have "previous" in Formula One but it was largely unsuccessful. However I agree, the name is associated with sports prototype racing rathar than this.
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And it seems to me like a pretty big gamble to take with a name like that.
with Ferrari in the same championship..............
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Last time Aston raced in F1 was the 1960 British Grand Prix - Roy Salvadori and Maurice Trintignant. Carroll Shelby also drove for them in F1 - they only ever raced in 5 races
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Yes, that was my point, however the comparison with Jaguar was on the basis that Jaguar had no previous in Formula One. BTW, it was Formula One then not F1 as it is now. don't you hate abbreviations?
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And why wouldn't they want to shout about having the Aston Martin name back in F1.
Back? Technically, but it is hardly an F1 name is it?

The name in F1? Means nothing to me. Bring it back to Newport Pagnell, not back to F1!
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Back? Technically, but it is hardly an F1 name is it?

The name in F1? Means nothing to me. Bring it back to Newport Pagnell, not back to F1!
And at the beginning of this year, BrawnGP would have meant nothing. And a few years ago, Force India.

Names are irrelevant as long as the racing is good!
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Brawn GP and Force India aren't exactly global brands, though. Whether they're successful or unsuccessful, they only exist in the sphere of F1. Aston Martin is a pretty big name to be playing around with - it would probably be damaged more by being unsuccessful than it would be enhanced by winning.
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Yes, that was my point, however the comparison with Jaguar was on the basis that Jaguar had no previous in Formula One.
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TBH FWIW they're OK IMO
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Brawn GP and Force India aren't exactly global brands, though. Whether they're successful or unsuccessful, they only exist in the sphere of F1. Aston Martin is a pretty big name to be playing around with - it would probably be damaged more by being unsuccessful than it would be enhanced by winning.

I agree RG, Prodrive F1 is a better idea..
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The "Prodrive for 2 years, Aston in 2012" rumour makes sense. I guess the reason why Autosport edited it out of their article was that DR hasn't confirmed it in case they aren't competitive

If Prodrive get in and are in the points regularly by the end of 2011, I think they'll give the Aston name a shot
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