Grp C/Grp A/V8SC 'Where are they now?' continued... - Page 105

**GTRMagic** · 9 Mar 2009, 11:27 (Ref:2412057)

Quote:

Originally Posted by drbob

Fair go PhaseIII, it is not as if it is being driven by Moffat in the ATCC this coming weekend. It is an historic event where it is out for basically a run and display.
As they say we are not racing for sheep stations we are out there for a bit of enjoyment.

Any chance of Moff' taking it for a burn sometime?

PhaseIII · 9 Mar 2009, 11:38 (Ref:2412066)

Fair go yourself drbob!

You obviously failed to read my first sentence and my further qualification!

MtP. made the bold statement:

"the LHD or RHD is going to make no performance difference"

I just raised the question of whether "TECHNICALLY" the positioning of the driver on the 'inside' of the majority of corners would, in fact, enhance the cornering 'performance'

Sheesh!!

pozforma · 9 Mar 2009, 19:53 (Ref:2412435)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtpanorama

The scrutineers have been all over it. The car has been given a special permit to run as LHD as the parts were not available in time to convert it back to RHD.
I for one, and most others probably just want to see it back out on the track, the LHD or RHD is going to make no performance difference so let it go.

The car has been in Australia for years if your telling me that RHD Sierra parts are hard to get

If the 9in diff isn't a performace advantage why is it used? reliability I hear you say, well isn't that an advantage also?

avors · 9 Mar 2009, 22:47 (Ref:2412600)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pozforma

The car has been in Australia for years if your telling me that RHD Sierra parts are hard to get

If the 9in diff isn't a performace advantage why is it used? reliability I hear you say, well isn't that an advantage also?

You’re making a mountain out of a mole hill, the car has a permit to run and Drbob has stated it will be returned to the correct spec.
Let the guy run it and the spectators enjoy.

Carter-Nelson · 9 Mar 2009, 23:58 (Ref:2412639)

Hi mtpanorama,
I'll be on the track with you and as a fellow Group A driver, am pleased to have another car on the grid and a Moffat car to boot. I will drop by and say hello, just look for the Mustang in your mirrors...

Good luck for the weekend, make sure you enjoy yourself and be safe.

Regards
Big Rev Nev.

P.S. I look forward to seeing you and the car on a regular basis, Sandown in November remember....

drbob · 10 Mar 2009, 00:09 (Ref:2412649)

Thanks guys. Let's get on with another topic.

GTRMagic, I would love Moff to have a run in the #10 ANZ Eggenberger Sierra even if it is only in the display laps. It should be ready for Muscle Car Masters but I am not sure whether he would be interested in running it in the Group A races.

mtpanorama · 10 Mar 2009, 00:47 (Ref:2412664)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carter-Nelson

Hi mtpanorama,
I'll be on the track with you and as a fellow Group A driver, am pleased to have another car on the grid and a Moffat car to boot. I will drop by and say hello, just look for the Mustang in your mirrors...

Good luck for the weekend, make sure you enjoy yourself and be safe.

Regards
Big Rev Nev.

P.S. I look forward to seeing you and the car on a regular basis, Sandown in November remember....

Nev, Unfortunately it is not my car, I just did the signwriting on it.

Bimmerhead · 10 Mar 2009, 01:50 (Ref:2412700)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtpanorama

The scrutineers have been all over it. The car has been given a special permit to run as LHD as the parts were not available in time to convert it back to RHD.
I for one, and most others probably just want to see it back out on the track, the LHD or RHD is going to make no performance difference so let it go.

Wouldn't be the first time CAMS has let a LHD car compete when its not in accordance with the rules...there's an BMW E36 running in Improved Production in Queensland thats built on a LHD BMW Motorsport chassis. IP rules state that the vehicle must have been locally delivered for road use to be eligible...since when were LHD BMW Motorsport shells used on Oz roads.

Carter-Nelson · 10 Mar 2009, 02:02 (Ref:2412706)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtpanorama

Nev, Unfortunately it is not my car, I just did the signwriting on it.

Oh well, who ever is going to drive it will have a great time at PI.

Nev.

mtpanorama · 10 Mar 2009, 02:41 (Ref:2412724)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bimmerhead

Wouldn't be the first time CAMS has let a LHD car compete when its not in accordance with the rules...there's an BMW E36 running in Improved Production in Queensland thats built on a LHD BMW Motorsport chassis. IP rules state that the vehicle must have been locally delivered for road use to be eligible...since when were LHD BMW Motorsport shells used on Oz roads.

BMW homologated the M3 in 2 & 4 door in LHD and RHD so it is definately legal for IP racing.

http://www.techmasters.com.au/forum/...php?f=2&t=3902

Carter-Nelson · 10 Mar 2009, 02:45 (Ref:2412727)

http://www.weather.com.au/vic/cowes

Nivola · 10 Mar 2009, 02:49 (Ref:2412728)

Hi all.

Could anyone be able to steer me in the right direction on some contact details for the Person that now owns the 1991 bathurst Nissan GTR that was sold to Asia please.

Ive done a few searches through these forums and come up blank. Yet I know I have seen images of the car returning here.

Nivola

mtpanorama · 10 Mar 2009, 02:59 (Ref:2412731)

Quote:

Originally Posted by drbob

Thanks guys. Let's get on with another topic.

GTRMagic, I would love Moff to have a run in the #10 ANZ Eggenberger Sierra even if it is only in the display laps. It should be ready for Muscle Car Masters but I am not sure whether he would be interested in running it in the Group A races.

Gee drbob, I didn't know about this one!

**GTRMagic** · 10 Mar 2009, 03:00 (Ref:2412732)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nivola

Hi all.

Could anyone be able to steer me in the right direction on some contact details for the Person that now owns the 1991 bathurst Nissan GTR that was sold to Asia please.

Ive done a few searches through these forums and come up blank. Yet I know I have seen images of the car returning here.

Nivola

C'mon down drbob

JordanRoddy · 10 Mar 2009, 12:14 (Ref:2412909)

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhaseIII

So... Not the Daimler then ??

Ummm... what?? Daimler??

David Towe · 10 Mar 2009, 12:26 (Ref:2412914)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carter-Nelson

http://www.weather.com.au/vic/cowes

Hi Nev and evryone, just thought I'd invite you all to "Rain Dancing" lessons to be held in my pit garage at 7.30 each morning and then the real rain dancing sessions to be held in the same place 30 mins before each race over the weekend. Come on folks, if we all work hard together we can make it rain!!
Cheers
David

David Towe · 10 Mar 2009, 12:35 (Ref:2412924)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chavez

Does the car being in 1987 livery have to run the smaller and fragile 7.5 inch rear end rather than the much stronger (and far more suitable to standing starts) 9 inch rear end?

If so it might make for some rather spectacular (and expensive starts)

If the car is presented in 1987 livery and has a C of D relating to that year it must run the same mechanical specs, so if a 7 and a half inch diff was used in 1987, it must use the same diff now. Heck, they used a 2.5 litre motor in M3s in 1991 and I've got one on the shelf, but I still use the correct 2.3 litre version even though the extra power would be great under foot.

racer69 · 10 Mar 2009, 16:45 (Ref:2413060)

What was the origins and what happened to the Marathon Foods VL Commodore's from 1992/93

Presumebly the black one from 1992 was written off on Conrod in an accident in the 1000 with the second Caltex Sierra, and the white one from 93 was another vehicle?

Bimmerhead · 11 Mar 2009, 05:14 (Ref:2413395)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtpanorama

BMW homologated the M3 in 2 & 4 door in LHD and RHD so it is definately legal for IP racing.

http://www.techmasters.com.au/forum/...php?f=2&t=3902

Don't the IP rules state that sporting evolutions and such are NOT eligible. And don't the regulations state that the vehicle must have been available to the general public through the normal dealer network. A LHD BMW Motorsport shell that was orignally a super tourer does not meet either of these criteria.......

Crash Test · 11 Mar 2009, 05:38 (Ref:2413398)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bimmerhead

Don't the IP rules state that sporting evolutions and such are NOT eligible. And don't the regulations state that the vehicle must have been available to the general public through the normal dealer network. A LHD BMW Motorsport shell that was orignally a super tourer does not meet either of these criteria.......

Isn't Justin Wade's BMW Super Tourer #1 a left hooker? IIRC, the only real problem he had with it was with the inner guards...

rdmdog · 11 Mar 2009, 09:16 (Ref:2413485)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bimmerhead

Don't the IP rules state that sporting evolutions and such are NOT eligible. And don't the regulations state that the vehicle must have been available to the general public through the normal dealer network. A LHD BMW Motorsport shell that was orignally a super tourer does not meet either of these criteria.......

IPRA Rules evolve regularly, any car that carries group A Homologation can comptet, and there are plenty of them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash Test

Isn't Justin Wade's BMW Super Tourer #1 a left hooker? IIRC, the only real problem he had with it was with the inner guards...

Therefore if the car is homolodgated in LHD and RHD then either is allowed.

Additionally, if the car was available here for generall road use and measures up to be a "Touring Car" then it's in as well.

** Similarly, Sierras were LHD and RHD, as were M3s and PLENTY of others. Whats the problem with any car running either?

Hope to see lots of them at PI this weekend, and Sorry Dave, I'd prefer it to be dry

.

avors · 11 Mar 2009, 11:22 (Ref:2413556)

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Towe

Hi Nev and evryone, just thought I'd invite you all to "Rain Dancing" lessons to be held in my pit garage at 7.30 each morning and then the real rain dancing sessions to be held in the same place 30 mins before each race over the weekend. Come on folks, if we all work hard together we can make it rain!!
Cheers
David

Dave, just keep of that grass if your trying to keep up with those Fords?

pete60 · 11 Mar 2009, 12:13 (Ref:2413574)

Quote:

Originally Posted by racer69

What was the origins and what happened to the Marathon Foods VL Commodore's from 1992/93

Presumebly the black one from 1992 was written off on Conrod in an accident in the 1000 with the second Caltex Sierra, and the white one from 93 was another vehicle?

No, I'm sure they were the same car.

mtpanorama · 13 Mar 2009, 05:14 (Ref:2414707)

P1 from phillip Is for the Group A 7 C cars.
Seton in drbobs M3 7 seconds quicker tan the second car

http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/re.../2009.PHIL.P10

mtpanorama · 13 Mar 2009, 06:18 (Ref:2414720)

Qualifying
http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/re.../2009.PHIL.Q21

The gap has closed a bit, but still 4 seconds.
Chris seems to be getting used to the ANZ sierra, moving up the time sheet.

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