GP2 Nurburgring - Page 2

flexible-flyer · 28 May 2005, 13:25 (Ref:1312534)

its not bruni you ****ing knob. get that **** out of the commentary box, he doesnt know ****.

flexible-flyer · 28 May 2005, 13:26 (Ref:1312536)

oh my god he actually got it right once. he had to have him spin and the car number clear as day and jamie davies to tell him so, but boy he actually got it right....

flexible-flyer · 28 May 2005, 13:27 (Ref:1312538)

in kirbys world, viso, lauda and yoshimoto are all actually called ginni bruni....

Kicking-back · 28 May 2005, 13:28 (Ref:1312539)

Carlton doesn't like it when there's close racing - like here with Bruni - he prefers a strung out procession so he doesn't have to pay attention.

flexible-flyer · 28 May 2005, 13:32 (Ref:1312543)

and once again kovalainen will benefit from other peoples unfortunate races....

i hate motorsport. it just isnt fair.

Miko · 28 May 2005, 13:42 (Ref:1312561)

anyway who won?

Kicking-back · 28 May 2005, 13:44 (Ref:1312563)

The race is still going on.

A few laps to go.

Kicking-back · 28 May 2005, 14:02 (Ref:1312581)

So Kovalianen wins from Pantano, Rosberg, Premat and Piquet

Russfeld · 28 May 2005, 14:08 (Ref:1312591)

They need to move the race start times forward a few minutes. There was a good 10 minutes prior to the initial formation lap that could have been better used at the end of the race to maybe even get the podium. I think Eurosport need to send someone to parc ferme each race to interview at the very least the winner as he gets out of the car, otherwise we're never ever going to hear comment from them unless ITV feel like interviewing someone at random and showing it a week later.

Knowlesy · 28 May 2005, 14:12 (Ref:1312594)

Eurosport have a real good feel for commentators don't they? No matter which sport you watch, they haven't employed a single really top commentator.

Kicking-back · 28 May 2005, 14:19 (Ref:1312603)

GP2 have shown so far they respond to issues - the TV commentating/coverage one needs addressing.

Carlton Kirby really needs to find an alternative line of work.

Zurich · 28 May 2005, 14:23 (Ref:1312610)

The commentator was awful, almost as bad as Garcia is at judging braking points!

Kovalainen was outstanding, and Carroll was, as usual, suffering ghastly luck... the fighting in the top 8 was a joy. All in all, it makes great tv!

karimbo · 28 May 2005, 14:25 (Ref:1312613)

the final result please..... some of us don't have the chance of listenig to Carlton Kirby, we rely on 10 tenths...

BoatOwner · 28 May 2005, 14:28 (Ref:1312616)

Quote:

Originally Posted by flexible-flyer

and once again kovalainen will benefit from other peoples unfortunate races....

Yeah i loved how in Monaco he took the win due to other drivers' unfortunate races.

Kicking-back · 28 May 2005, 14:28 (Ref:1312617)

http://www.gp2series.com/en/website/...ews=tcm:2-3682

Results and report

sceptic · 28 May 2005, 14:38 (Ref:1312624)

Quote:

Originally Posted by karimbo

the final result please..... some of us don't have the chance of listenig to Carlton Kirby, we rely on 10 tenths...

Pos. Name Team Time
1 Heikki Kovalainen Arden 1:01:43.066
2 Giorgio Pantano SuperNova +1.832
3 Nico Rosberg ART +24.953
4 Alexandre Premat ART +40.520
5 Nelson Piquet HiTech +41.160
6 Neel Jani Racing Engineering +49.037
7 Clivio Piccione Durango +49.138
8 Gianmaria Bruni Coloni +54.249
9 Ryan Sharp DPR +1:07.919
10 Mathias Lauda Coloni +1:08.692
11 Hiroki Yoshimoto BCN +1:17.472
12 Nicolas Lapierre Arden +1:19.997
13 Jose Maria Lopez DAMS +1:20.750
14 Fairuz Fauzy DAMS +1:25.564
15 Sergio Hernandez Campos +1:32.110
16 Scott Speed iSport -1 Lap
17 Can Artam iSport -1 Lap
18 Juan Cruz Alvarez Campos -3 Laps
19 Ernesto Viso BCN DNF
DNF Adam Carroll SuperNova DNF
DNF Olivier Pla DPR DNF
DNF Borja Garcia Racing Engineering DNF
DNF Alexandre Negrao HiTech DNF
DNF Ferdinando Monfardini Durango DNF

from formula-2.net

Drivers' Championship
Pos. Name Team Points
1 Heikki Kovalainen Arden 38
2 Gianmaria Bruni Coloni 27
3 Scott Speed iSport 27
4 Adam Carroll SuperNova 23
6 Nico Rosberg ART 18
5 Jose Maria Lopez DAMS 17
7 Nelson Piquet HiTech 14
8 Neel Jani Racing Engineering 13
9 Alexandre Premat ART 12
10 Giorgio Pantano SuperNova 10
11 Nicolas Lapierre Arden 4
12 Mathias Lauda Coloni 3
13 Olivier Pla DPR 2
14 Clivio Piccione Durango 2
15 Can Artam iSport 2
16 Ryan Sharp DPR 2
17 Ernesto Viso BCN 2
18 Sergio Hernandez Campos Motorsport 1
19 Alexandre Negrao HiTech 1

same source.

Kidzer · 28 May 2005, 14:43 (Ref:1312627)

Could've been a good starting position for Ryan tomorrow, no doubt would've been if it wasn't for the startline fiasco, would've been on thread earlier but for this

flexible-flyer · 28 May 2005, 15:33 (Ref:1312667)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoatOwner

Yeah i loved how in Monaco he took the win due to other drivers' unfortunate races.

weird because i never saw him win in monaco. i did however see him benefit from retirement after retirement and the like....just like today!

kova is a good driver, one of the top 5 driver sin this championship but is by far the luckiest aswell.

ah well to win titles you need as much luck as skill. thats just what he has got.

Kicking-back · 28 May 2005, 15:46 (Ref:1312673)

flexible-flyer - I think BoatOwner was suggesting Adam's Monaco win was helped by other drivers' misfortune

flexible-flyer · 28 May 2005, 15:52 (Ref:1312678)

well i wouldnt say so. because this is a team sport and arden screwed up. anyway if he wasnt stuck behind bruni for so long he would have took the race to heikki anyway.

BoatOwner · 28 May 2005, 15:55 (Ref:1312686)

Quote:

Originally Posted by flexible-flyer

weird because i never saw him win in monaco.

I forgot the 'sarcastic' smilie.

He didn't get far off the grid in one race and lost a win in Monaco due to technical problems. Not even nearly the worst luck out of the drivers on the grid, but it's hard to say that he is continuosly benefitting from other drivers' retirements. Surely some have benefitted from his retirements.

SALEEN S7R · 28 May 2005, 15:55 (Ref:1312687)

Interesting race, shame about Carroll though. Good to see Bruni up near the front again though.

I just hope Carroll gets some points in race 2...

flexible-flyer · 28 May 2005, 16:15 (Ref:1312697)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoatOwner

I forgot the 'sarcastic' smilie.

He didn't get far off the grid in one race and lost a win in Monaco due to technical problems. Not even nearly the worst luck out of the drivers on the grid, but it's hard to say that he is continuosly benefitting from other drivers' retirements. Surely some have benefitted from his retirements.

im just saying that its hard to take that heikki has such a big points lead now when the last 2 races have saw him get very very lucky. im not doubting his ability as a driver, but its undeniable that in this race and the last race in monaco he has got very very lucky. sure he lost a couple of points because a botched pitstop in monaco but he got a fair bit back again thanks to a trafficless pole lap and lots of retirements. in this race, again kova has shown his skill but he wouldnt have won if 6 cars hand not stalled and further 4 or 5 not been eliminated from turn one. and he shouldnt even have been able to start the race as he put peoples lives at rick by ignoring waved yellows when other drivers slowed. he seen 'em, but ignored 'em and thought he would get away with it. others knew it would ruin their lap times but slowed up, because thats what waved yellows are for.

whatever. i like kovalainen. my second favorite driver in gp2....im just bitter at the fact saturday the 28th of may has been a disaster on all fronts. the ps2 broke, the sky plus failed to record something i dearly wanted recorded, adams weekend has been destroyed by waved yellows and some spanish idiot....the microwave oven also sounds dead. bad day.

cos · 28 May 2005, 16:47 (Ref:1312705)

Quote:

Originally Posted by flexible-flyer

adams weekend has been destroyed by waved yellows and some spanish idiot

Said Spanish idiot has been banned from the second race tomorrow.

flexible-flyer · 28 May 2005, 16:48 (Ref:1312707)

at last some justice!

garcia has been banned from race 2 for being an idiot.

about time someone was banned. kova, rosberg and premat should have already been banned but atleast one person has got what was coming.

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