Yet another qually format!

[Marbot]

Here's another twist to the qually question at www.grandprix.com Sooner or later something will be decided,but don't hold your breath.

[Kicking-back]

T'was in Autosport this week.

Decent idea.

[Yours Trulli]

It's such a messy system...I don't much care for any of these ideas. Just go back to 2002 quali or something similar...

[Marbot]

Originally Posted by Yours Trulli

It's such a messy system...I don't much care for any of these ideas. Just go back to 2002 quali or something similar...

Personally,at this point in time,i would settle for numbers out of a hat.

[pole2pole]

Originally Posted by Yours Trulli

It's such a messy system...I don't much care for any of these ideas. Just go back to 2002 quali or something similar...

Totally agree. They have messed about far to much with the qualifying format in fact they have messed about with it so much I think they have got lost

[Marbot]

Also at www.itv-f1.com

[ralf fan]

Well i had suggested the above system earliar. It really isnt fair to penalise someone for the previous weekends misfortune.
While i agree that the 2002 system is the best if the FIA want to pursue with the one lap qually format the system mentioned is probably the most fair...

[Knowlesy]

It's still hardly ideal.

[Pingguest]

The current problem with a free-for-all format are current tyre and engine rules. These will make drivers to stay in the pitlane.

[Adam43]

The important thing here is that it was suggested by the drivers. Does that carry some weight? It is interesting that they want low fuel.

The main problem seems to be how their suggestion fits into the required hour.

[Pingguest]

Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

The important thing here is that it was suggested by the drivers. Does that carry some weight? It is interesting that they want low fuel.

The main problem seems to be how their suggestion fits into the required hour.

Almost everyone wants qualifying on low fuel.

[shiny side up!]

I think the whole "second lap if the driver chooses to" is highly suspect... you want one lap quallies, then don't screw up your first lap! If you want multiple chances to have a flier... go back to 12 laps in an hour...

[Valve Bounce]

I think this is a great idea for the spectators. Sato would be a scream

[twig]

I cant get to that link - but i was thinking of maybe having it like we do this year - running in order of the previous race's results. Instead of the winner coming out last - he would go first. So the naturally fast car would be disadvantage - someone unlucky in the previous race would be advantaged. Unfair maybe - but it would create a bit more competition.

It would however, remove the situation where cars are returned to the circuit to gain a few positions for the next race's quali, and hopefully it would not create the problem of cars being pulled out of the races like the 2 race engine rule nearly did.

did i just hijack this thread?

[annettouille]

I want low fuel qualifs such that we can make better comparisons between teammates. I also like the idea that they be given a second chance such that we see real flat out laps. I just wonder how this can all take place in one hour?

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by twig

Unfair maybe - but it would create a bit more competition.

The essence of F1 is to reward exellence. Or perhaps not reward mistakes. Why not just introduce success ballast?

The advantageous late starting position should be earnt. Although I would prefer it was done in the manner suggested by the drivers than from teh previous weekends results. I'd like to keep each race independent.

Originally Posted by twig

It would however, remove the situation where cars are returned to the circuit to gain a few positions for the next race's quali,

I liked this.

Originally Posted by twig

and hopefully it would not create the problem of cars being pulled out of the races like the 2 race engine rule nearly did.

I didn't like this.

[D_Marshall]

The best system would be to go back to the 4 runs in an hour and have it compulsory to complete a run every 15 mins. If a car cannot complete a run in a given 15 minute window, unlucky! That car only gets 3 runs. (E.g. a car has a problem and misses the first 15 min slot, then it can't get that lap back and can only complete the remaining 3 15 minute slots). Creates low fuel qualifying and there would always be action on track.

[Marbot]

I like the idea suggested by the drivers,but there's probably only time for the top ten to do another flying lap,which is no bad thing i suppose as only the top ten should get that chance,but then we'll get the lesser teams complaining about TV air time.And so it goes on and on.........

[Louis B.]

I too like the drivers' idea (nothing to do with who is behind it or a big promoter of it amongst the drivers ). I also like the variant proposed above by D_Marshall.

[muzza4ever]

Yeah D Marshall's suggestion which is near enough to FIA option 2 without the barminess of it's a knockout

I think there would have to be something to prevent spurious "problems" for those teams that secretly want to preserve tyres. - a 5 sec penalty or 10 place drop if found to be not actually a fault?

[richard_sykes]

If it gets too compliated I dont think the sofa supporters will watch it as much.

[Marbot]

Don't expect low fuel qualifying for next season either http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=95972

[Marbot]

OK,i'll try again.Don't expect low fuel qualifying next season(see above post).

[Marbot]

More on qualifying here.