e-Tracks updates

[Splatz the Cow]

Thanx Speed for getting back to me about the Adelaide circuit. Yes, I remember it just as "Adelaide" as well, your right. I think I was being pedantic. I'll work on getting that map for you cos I bought the programme from the Clipsal.

The Bartels road 'kink' I refered to is at the west end of Bartels, when the cars first turn onto Bartels. Once they come out the corner on here it's straight without that little squiggle early on in your map. Of course, your quite right in that it has that fast right hander onto Dequettaville Tce. The Clipsal V8 track is now slightly different at this corner onto Brabham, it's made in to a +220kmh sweeper, and watching the Lamborghini Diablo GT, Ferrari 360 Michelotto's, and Dodge Viper GTS-R's rip through there was awsome!!!! The Diablo went round the outside of the Ferrari through there (not done before) - while accelerating - all right in front of where I was standing. Ticket paid itself right there.

[renaultbel]

Like you see Speed Demon there are many famouse belgium people.

[Alan]

But getting back to the point it is an extremely good site.

[Speed Demon]

I wasn't saying there aren't any famous Belgian people, merely pointing out that it is an oft repeated cliche, which is ironic since Spa is one of the most famous racing circuits. However, if you find it offensive I'll remove it at the next update.

[Speed Demon]

Originally posted by Splatz the Cow
Thanx Speed for getting back to me about the Adelaide circuit. Yes, I remember it just as "Adelaide" as well, your right. I think I was being pedantic. I'll work on getting that map for you cos I bought the programme from the Clipsal.

The Bartels road 'kink' I refered to is at the west end of Bartels, when the cars first turn onto Bartels. Once they come out the corner on here it's straight without that little squiggle early on in your map. Of course, your quite right in that it has that fast right hander onto Dequettaville Tce. The Clipsal V8 track is now slightly different at this corner onto Brabham, it's made in to a +220kmh sweeper, and watching the Lamborghini Diablo GT, Ferrari 360 Michelotto's, and Dodge Viper GTS-R's rip through there was awsome!!!! The Diablo went round the outside of the Ferrari through there (not done before) - while accelerating - all right in front of where I was standing. Ticket paid itself right there.

I assume the map in the race programme is different to the one on the official website, because that is the one I have on e-Tracks. Autosport says the track was modified, so I suppose it must be (and as you were there, you ought to know!).

[Speed Demon]

Latest updates to e-Tracks:

Mar 14: Added Monterrey (MEX)
Mar 24: Added features page
Mar 24: Added Veracruz (MEX)
Mar 24: Added León (MEX)
Mar 24: Added Querétaro (MEX)
Mar 24: Added Rudskogen (N)
Mar 25: Added Texas World Speedway (USA)
Mar 25: Added San Luis Potosi (MEX)
Mar 25: Added Torreón (MEX)
Mar 25: Added Cartagena (E)
Mar 31: Added San Juan (RA)
Mar 31: Updated Parana (RA)
Mar 31: Added Las Flores (RA)
Mar 31: Added Levin (NZ)
Apr 1: Added San Jorge (RA)
Apr 2: Added Santa Rosa (RA)
Apr 2: Las Parejas (RA)
Apr 2: RÃ*o Cuarto (RA)

[DNQ]

Just bring this one back to the top of the forum - great site Speed Demon

[Speed Demon]

Thanks, DNQ. Glad you like the site.

There have been a fair few more updates since I last updated this thread (if you see what I mean!)

Apr 3: Added San Martin (RA)
Apr 3: Added Trelew (RA)
Apr 3: Added Nasu (J)
Apr 3: Added Inagawa (J)
Apr 4: Updated Helsinki (SF)
Apr 4: Added Des Moines (USA)
Apr 4: Added Honda Safety & Riding (J)
Apr 4: Added Puebla (MEX)
Apr 4: Added Chihuahua (MEX)
Apr 5: Added St Petersburg (USA)
Apr 5: Added Putnam Park (USA)
Apr 5: Added Saltillo (MEX)
Apr 5: Added Sport & Safety (J)
Apr 6: Added Pachuca (MEX)
Apr 6: Added Hallett (USA)
Apr 6: Added San Antonio (USA)
Apr 6: Added West Palm Beach (USA)
Apr 8: Updated Ledenon (F)
Apr 8: Updated Indianapolis (USA)
Apr 8: Added Colmar-berg (LUX)
Apr 8: Added Rockanje (NL)
Apr 15: Added Perth (AUS)
Apr 15: Added Bay Park (NZ)
Apr 15: Added Zeltweg (A)
Apr 15: Added Rausch Creek (USA)
Apr 22: Added Adria (I)
Apr 22: Updated St Petersburg (USA)
Apr 23: Added Bridgehampton (USA)
Apr 23: Added Taimiami Park (USA)
Apr 23: Added Val de Vienne (F)
Apr 23: Updated La Chatre (F)
Apr 23: Updated Knockhill (GB)
Apr 28: Added El Pinar (URG)
Apr 28: Added Manfeild (NZ)
May 4: Added Stardust (USA)
May 4: Added Cadwell Park (GB)
May 5: Added Magny-Cours history (F)
May 5: Added Savannah (USA)
May 6: Added Guadalajara (MEX)
May 6: Added Mendoza (RA)
May 6: Added Guadix (E)
May 15: Added Vila do Conde (P)
May 15: Added Dunedin (NZ)
May 29: Added Nagatino Island (RUS)
May 29: Added Togliatti (RUS)
May 29: Added Nevskoe Ring (RUS)
May 29: Added Opatija (CR)
Jun 17: Added Thunderhill Park (USA)
Jun 17: Added Buttonwillow (USA)
Jun 17: Added Meadowdale (USA)
Jun 17: Updated Montreal (CDN)
Jun 18: Added Hodinka (RUS)
Jun 18: Added Sparrow Hills (RUS)
Jun 21: Updated Lausitzring (D)
Jun 21: Added Botniaring (SF)

I've also added a new Magny-Cours trackrecord, having rediscovered my treasured pile of notes and maps which I feared were lost in a house move...

I also had a nice email the other day from Vic Elford, who requested I add Jim Hall's track, Rattlesnake Raceway.

[DNQ]

THE Vic Elford??? Good lord!

[Speed Demon]

It was indeed the Vic Elford.

At last a few more updates to report on - I've been a bit inactive recently with updates to e-Tracks, thanks to a combination of lots of work, sunny weathe and a trip to Donington park for the excellent DTM cars a few weeks ago.

Anyhow, normal service should now be resumed!

Latest updates:

July 13: Added Zacatecas (MEX)
July 13: Added Grand Rapids (USA)
July 13: Added Norrköping (S)

I also corrected the link on the front page to Sparrow Hills, which is in Russia, not the USA, of course!

You'll also find artists impressions of the proposed new Viking Motor Park oval and road course in Sweden.

[Speed Demon]

Thought it was about time I updated this post to reflect the new e-Tracks address (which has been in use for more than a year now, but I'd forgotton this post existed!).

You can now find e-Tracks at: www.etracksonline.co.uk

Please note that the old Freeserve address no longer exists.

I've been working behind the scenes on a major project to map the Nurburgring Nordschleife properly, the fruits of which should be online within the next few weeks, complete with a potted history of the track.

[Magical Trevor]

Sounds good Neil!
Hope you're keeping up on stories too!
One I am particularly interested in is the repaving of Lime Rock Park, which AFAIK will be happening early this summer. Maybe you could find some info and make a news article?
Thanks for the update.

[luke]

Terrific site there Neil.

BTW you probably know but the current Hungaroring layout is the old one.

cheers,
luke.

[Speed Demon]

Fallen behind with the news of late (slapped wrist). I am a working journalist, so I really have to be in the mood of an evening to continue writing news! Will try to do better and I'll enquire about Lime Rock.

Both layouts of the Hungaroring are available - but there was an errant link on the Hungary page which sent you to the old one first, which I've now corrected. If you found the track through the circuits A-Z index, it sent you to the new one, so I was half right!

[EvilPumpkin]

Great site - however, if you get time, might be worth asking Mondello for an updated map of the circuit - there've been a few name changes.

Oh and we get the GTs now as well!

[Steve Wilkinson]

Speed Demon - great site it is now one of the 'track sites' on my favourites list. Keep up the wonderful work. I especially like the Historical linkage to how the tracks used to be - excellent.

[Speed Demon]

Oh corner names are a pain! Every time a new sponsor comes along the name gets changed... Don't even get me started on the Nurburgring!

[EvilPumpkin]

LOL - yes we have the same problem - that's why all the marshals' posts use numbered call signals - means we don't have to change everytime someone else coughs up money.

I can get you the current ones if you want them - they've been in place for a couple of years so you never know, we might get another year out of them!!!!

[Speed Demon]

Originally Posted by EvilPumpkin

I can get you the current ones if you want them - they've been in place for a couple of years so you never know, we might get another year out of them!!!!

Oh, I've gasve up on getting the correct ones when the Kurzanbindung became Conti-Spange... At least the Nordschleife names are the same. I think I've got the right ones for the next update, however, but thanks for the offer.

I think I should also nominate Bathurst Mount Panorama for a pain in the butt award when it comes to corner names as well...

[EvilPumpkin]

Um....I meant for Mondello.....

[Speed Demon]

Ah, I see. Mondello is one of the maps I will be updating at some point as I am not happy with the current version, so the new names were great.

The one thing I forgot about the 'Ring was that there is often some debate as to which corner is which, even if the name hasn't change. Schwalbenschwanz being a case in point. It's not the banked corner before Galgenkopf, but the one before it. I think...

[Purist]

Well, there are something like 175 corners on the Nordschleife, so keeping track of them, even if the names don't change, is a real challenge.

[pirenzo]

Originally Posted by Speed Demon

Ah, I see. Mondello is one of the maps I will be updating at some point as I am not happy with the current version, so the new names were great.

The one thing I forgot about the 'Ring was that there is often some debate as to which corner is which, even if the name hasn't change. Schwalbenschwanz being a case in point. It's not the banked corner before Galgenkopf, but the one before it. I think...

Isn't Schwalbenschwanz the name for a number of corners, including both the ones you mention, plus a couple after it?
I think Schwalbenschwanz means Swallow's Tail... I could be totally wrong there though, but I have a recollection of reading it somewhere. Anyway, that would imply it applied to that sequence of corners that forms a sort of swallow's tail shape. A tenous argument I know...

[Speed Demon]

Originally Posted by Speed Demon

It's not the banked corner before Galgenkopf, but the one before it. I think...

Or maybe it is. I think the confusion may be the unofficial name of the corner, which is Kleine(s) Karussel. But, in the light of several emails, I now beleive Schwalbenschwanz does indeed represent the whole complex of corners, rather like Pflanzgarten.