2012 Japanese Super GT

[alexkiller8]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

Oh please, I don't want those cars to disappear... If they did, it's gonna be another GT3 clone and competing against GT Asia (where they have GT3 cars).

put your self in a team owner, why he should use much more money for the manteinance of a JAF-300 when a gt3 is cheaper and much more performant because of bop?
if some jaf-300 will remain, will be just for a commercial matter without any expectation to win, like the toyota prius hybrid

[ronnie peterson]

Latest update on Tim Bergmeister from his brother Joerg.

this morning my brother tried to tell us something.. so we gave him a pen and paper and the first word that he wrote was: LAGUNA.. so i guess I have no choice but go to Laguna tomorrow night. today the doctors took him off the respirator and he is talking. he is in a lot of pain from 14 broken ribs and all his other broken bones. there are still a lot of things that can go wrong, but he made a very big step! Thank you everyone for keeping him in your thoughts and prayers . Jörg

[Articus]

Hahaha. That's very encouraging to hear! Thye have said that there were no brain or spinal cord injuries which most likely means Tim will be fine. The fact that he remembered Joerg having to race at Laguna....Says it all doesn't it?

[DS"]

The story almost sounds like Rocky II, when Adrian told Rocky to win his bout against Apollo. Of course it's a good thing when I can make fun about that, and I hope for a quick recovery for Tim.

[aneesh99]

Brilliant news, good on Tim! I wish him a speedy recovery, can't believe he's improved that much so quickly

JAF need to take a good hard look at GT300 and decide what the hell they want to do with it because it's a half-a*sed mess out there in terms of regulations and that the current situation is pretty much going to lead to the death of GT300 cars. Everyone's said it, if you can spend significantly less and get equal peformance, well, it is what it is.

[alexkiller8]

gt300 has always been a messed regulations class also before gt3 entry...
just look to some year ago before... GT1 cars (murcielago RG1) vs GT3 cars (gallardo RG3, mosler MT900R) vs GT2 cars (997 RSR and 430GT) vs modified GT2 cars (jim gainer 360, various modified 996) vs modified DP cars (shiden) vs heavy tuned road cars (vemac, ford GT) vs JF-300 prototypes (garaya, is350, 350z) and other (rx-7, MT900M) that i don't know how to classify...

[TF110]

I wouldn't call it a mess, just different! At least the vehicles. Hopefully they'll get it sorted out and we see cars like the BRZ do good in future rounds.

[alexkiller8]

ok, but the competition was however driven by the JAF... until the end of 2010 in GT300 the prototypes were clearly advantaged, the GT1/2/3 cars were able to do some good race but never had a clear chance to the title. Last year instead the championship victory was between the jim gainer 458 GTC against GST z4 GT3, as first sign of the transition process that the competition is going on.

[rich07]

Originally Posted by ronnie peterson

Latest update on Tim Bergmeister from his brother Joerg.

You couldnt make that up could you? Wow. Thats so brave of him, he has FOURTEEN broken ribs (sheesh) and the first thing he does is tell his brother to sod off and go racing. Great to hear he's on the mend albeit slowly.

[Japanese Samurai]

APR Prius (#31) does not equip hybrid system in Sepang round.
The export restrictions of Li-ion battery are reasons.
http://as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=40999

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

APR Prius (#31) does not equip hybrid system in Sepang round.
The export restrictions of Li-ion battery are reasons.
http://as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=40999

Wait, does it have to do with safety hazards or just that the Malaysian government banned it for competitive reasons (as in economic terms).

[TF110]

That must be a performance hindrance foe them, how will they make up for it?

[Japanese Samurai]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

Wait, does it have to do with safety hazards or just that the Malaysian government banned it for competitive reasons (as in economic terms).

It is the former.
Since the export regulations of hazardous materials exist in Japan,
Li-ion battery cannot be transported to Malaysia.
Autosport says that special transportation method is required.

BOP of APR Prius
*Fuji round
1100(+105kg)kg=27.5mm*2 /1150(+105kg)kg=28.0mm*2/ 1200(+105kg)kg=28.5mm*2
(Hybrid system weight: +105kg)
*Sepang round
1100kg=26.6mm*2/ 1150kg=27.1mm*2/ 1200kg=27.7mm*2

[TF110]

So they will run without the hybrid power, but lesser weight? And the values you give, are they for ballast added to cars? If they run at described weight they are able to run with described restrictor size?

[Japanese Samurai]

Originally Posted by TF110

So they will run without the hybrid power, but lesser weight? And the values you give, are they for ballast added to cars? If they run at described weight they are able to run with described restrictor size?

Yes, no alternative ballast.

[Monkey Head]

2011 PCCJ Champion Hideto Yasuoka going to subs Nideki Noda's seat in Hitotsuyama Racing second car next round.

Moreover it's race number convert from 20 to 99 with immediate effect
http://www.as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=41015

[Japanese Samurai]

Technical explanation of 2012 HSV-010 by Honda.
You can check out the rear third damper of HSV.
http://www.honda.co.jp/SuperGT/spcon...012/hsv-010gt/

[MagVanisher]

Say Japanese Samurai... I know this is off-topic but is there a rumor of the JAF and/or GT-A, planning of a revival of the 24 hour endurance race at Tokachi in the near future? The last time held there was in 2008.

[Japanese Samurai]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

Say Japanese Samurai... I know this is off-topic but is there a rumor of the JAF and/or GT-A, planning of a revival of the 24 hour endurance race at Tokachi in the near future? The last time held there was in 2008.

The owner of Tokachi speedway has gone bankrupt once.
There are no funds which hold SGT/Tokachi 24h race to the present owner.

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

The owner of Tokachi speedway has gone bankrupt once.
There are no funds which hold SGT/Tokachi 24h race to the present owner.

I see... So sad to hear that! Super GT needs a longer race that can last up to 24 Hours.

[aneesh99]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

I see... So sad to hear that! Super GT needs a longer race that can last up to 24 Hours.

I'd put a question mark on the reliability of the cars, I don't think these 'prototype' GT's have ever run that long. The longest race they run/ran in is the Suzuka 1000km right? That's around 6 hours. Plus the big draw for the Tokachi 24 is that amateurs can enter, it's more of a participation formula. I don't think there would be enough interest or viability in promoting a 24 hour race.

[alexkiller8]

beyond reliability, how much will be expensive for the teams a 24H race?

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by aneesh99

I'd put a question mark on the reliability of the cars, I don't think these 'prototype' GT's have ever run that long. The longest race they run/ran in is the Suzuka 1000km right? That's around 6 hours. Plus the big draw for the Tokachi 24 is that amateurs can enter, it's more of a participation formula. I don't think there would be enough interest or viability in promoting a 24 hour race.

Then, what about 12 Hours? Or even 8 Hours?

Using 1/2 (or 2/6) of the time it took to stage a race over a 24 Hours race will definitely save money as well as bringing excitement to an endurance race.

[aneesh99]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

Then, what about 12 Hours? Or even 8 Hours?

Using 1/2 (or 2/6) of the time it took to stage a race over a 24 Hours race will definitely save money as well as bringing excitement to an endurance race.

12 is something I'd love to see. Unfortunately, I think it's quite unlikely for the foreseeable future, money and interest will be the issues. Not to mention that I doubt the FIA would be very impressed with a race directly competing against one of their events, the Fuji round of the WEC.

[TF110]

I don't think these cars would have a problem doing a 12hour event. Their engines are all proven to be reliable enough in endurance. They, in some form, have taken part in endurance style racing before. That HSV I think is the most beautiful SuperGT car I've seen.