Remember the KINCRAFT? - Page 3

Andrew Kitson · 29 Jul 2002, 09:52 (Ref:345123)

Here is another pic of the Nomad.

Andrew Kitson · 1 Aug 2002, 10:28 (Ref:347753)

Check out today's 'Autosport' page79!!!! The KINCRAFT is alive and well ( except for some restoration) and is for sale by Roger Cowman. A nice colour pic of it too.
Please someone rich out there , buy it and race it again so we can see this glorious single seater in action after all these years.

tonyabacus · 1 Aug 2002, 10:45 (Ref:347763)

Hi Andrew
I just had a reply from a guy in the USA stating that he has this car and is coming to England on the 11th August and would like to meet or talk with you! How many cars exist! Let me have your email and I will keep you informed
Regards
Tony

Andrew Kitson · 1 Aug 2002, 10:56 (Ref:347767)

There are only 2. The single seater which is for sale in Autosport today and the sports car that Richard Blenko owns. Yes, Richard is coming to the UK and I will meet him probably at The Oulton Gold Cup historic meeting.
Thanks.

ISK · 1 Aug 2002, 23:13 (Ref:348223)

Back to the original question... Check out page 79 of this weeks Autosport (1/8/02) The famous Kincraft V8 is up for sale!!!!

ISK · 1 Aug 2002, 23:15 (Ref:348225)

Ooops My site update is runnig late again.... You've already spotted it....sorry

vaughan jones · 10 Aug 2002, 21:54 (Ref:354908)

kincraft is for sale in autosport and motoring news

vaughan jones · 10 Aug 2002, 22:03 (Ref:354916)

nomad pic that is tony lanfranchi at the wheel i think?
Mark konig built nomads his wife was gabrielle konig seen the wheel of midget in the 60/70 modsports thread

tonyabacus · 10 Aug 2002, 22:17 (Ref:354926)

I understand there is a nomad down near Swansea with a chap called Terry Davison who occassionally gives it an airing

DaveM · 5 Dec 2002, 21:30 (Ref:443682)

Hello (said the latecomer)

Have just found this thread, so hope I can still contribute.

I have some photos I took of the Kincraft just before we won the World Cup. It was indeed red, and I first came across it at Croft on 30th May 1966 when Robin Darlington drove it. My camera at the time was a fixed lens thing so the paddock shots were alright but the track ones showed a tiny dot in the desolate waste which was Croft at the time.

I am not sure what success Robin had with the car, but he seemed to like big engined ones as I have a few shots of him in a Lola T70 at Mallory later in the year.

The following year Jim Moore had great success in club races around the country with the Kincraft, and I have one fuzzy shot from (an even more desolate) Rufforth.

This wasn't the only V8 engined single seaters pre-F5000, but was probably the most successful. Do you remember Chris Summers' Lotus-Chevrolet?

Photos follow, firstly the Kincraft at Croft:

DaveM · 5 Dec 2002, 21:35 (Ref:443685)

...and the Kincraft at Croft again (try saying that after a XXXX or five)

DaveM · 5 Dec 2002, 21:37 (Ref:443688)

Here's Jim Moore at Rufforth

DaveM · 5 Dec 2002, 21:39 (Ref:443691)

and finally Chris Summers. I see that this was taken the day before the Croft ones, must have been a Bank Holiday weekend. Oh happy days...

Andrew Kitson · 5 Dec 2002, 22:29 (Ref:443729)

DaveM - Superb! You have some gems there.
Interesting to note the varied road cars in the paddock shots too. Including the 'Basil Fawlty' style Austin behind Chris Summers car! You know, the one he beat up with a tree branch!

DaveM · 5 Dec 2002, 23:00 (Ref:443754)

I'LL GIVE YOU ONE MORE CHANCE!!!

P.S. Sorry that my mention of Chris Summers seemed to ignore the fact that he had already been mentioned earlier in the thread - I had only read page 1 and hadn't realised there were two other pages!

DaveM · 6 Dec 2002, 07:42 (Ref:443940)

I got a bit carried away on the Roll Call thread and included the following, which I should have posted here!

I remember most of the names/cars mentioned above and have pics of many of them. Do you remember Peter Hawthorne who drove an imacculate Anglia (pale metallic blue I think) with a 2.5 litre Tasman engine? He then had a dark red one entered by Castle Service Station Racing and "registered" CSSR 1. Both very successful in club racing at the time.

Andrew Kitson · 6 Dec 2002, 08:21 (Ref:443961)

The Tasman Anglia!
DaveM - check out the thread 'Angleboxes' in the Historic Section. But again, it has three or four pages of posts. There is a photo of it there I think. Keep 'em coming!

DaveM · 6 Dec 2002, 23:15 (Ref:444711)

Going back to the original subject, here are some more pre-F5000 big banger single seaters, all from Rufforth 27th May '67. Taken from the spectator enclosure so blown up from little specks hence the poor quality - sorry!

In neat numerical order, firstly Tommy Reid (4.7 litre Crossle)...

DaveM · 6 Dec 2002, 23:17 (Ref:444712)

...now Jock Russell (4.7 Russell-Ford) - what was it based on?

DaveM · 6 Dec 2002, 23:18 (Ref:444714)

...and Jim Charnock (4.7 Cooper-Cobra)

Andrew Kitson · 7 Dec 2002, 08:30 (Ref:444885)

Quote:

Originally posted by DaveM
...now Jock Russell (4.7 Russell-Ford) - what was it based on?

I don't know Dave - fill us in!
I remember Jock Russell racing a Lotus 70 in F5000 but that was later - 69/70. He also had a pretty hefty shunt at Paddock at Brands.
Is the Russell - Ford 'Lotus' based?

Andrew Kitson · 7 Dec 2002, 08:32 (Ref:444886)

They all seem to be inspired by the Kincraft - and F5000 from that.

DaveM · 7 Dec 2002, 12:50 (Ref:444993)

It wasn't a quiz question Andrew - I don't know the answer! Is there a F5000 thread? I have quite a lot of photos from the first year.

Andrew Kitson · 7 Dec 2002, 13:01 (Ref:444999)

Yes I think there is, within the past 6 months or so in the historic forum or you could start a new one! Yes please Dave, let's see your F5000 pics.

allenbrown · 7 Dec 2002, 20:08 (Ref:445209)

Dave

These images are great to see. The Russell-Ford is a bit of a mystery but I think it was based on a Lotus 35. The Tommy Reid Crossle was probably the 10F, the forerunner of the proper F5000 15F. The Charnock Cooper was a T66.

These early years of F5000 need more research. Your photographs will be a huge help.

Much as I love the Kincraft, it really had littel influence on the beginnings of F5000. The 5-litre Formula started in the US when, in June 1967, the SCCA allowed 5-litre stock block engines to race alongside 3-litre racing engines in Formula A. With Lola, McLaren and Surtees all building cars for that formula, it was decided to import the same rules as "Formula 5000".

Allen

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