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Old 5 Jul 2003, 00:58 (Ref:652988)   #51
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edu, thanks! The Karman Ghia is great (I want one!), the Fitti-Volks is wild. I have no skill with Portuguese, the Fitti-Porsche was based on a 550 RS Chassis? That is a nice looking car! It is no small wonder Emerson developed car handling skill looking at some of the things he was playing with.

I am a VW nut, and I have never seen that double bug. Wow.

These races were on a track, or over the public roads?
Yeh, the Fitti-Porsche was based in the 550. The chassis was prolongated in 300mm, and body was drawn by Emerson. He broke record of Interlagos, in the first lap with this car.

The double VW is only two joined engines... The Double VW was fastest that one Lola T-70 It looks at the windscreen of the car, it is lying, the space is the air inlet there, to cool the engine.

They were in a track, circuit of Interlagos and Jacarepaguá, and others road-circuits.
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Old 5 Jul 2003, 10:05 (Ref:653165)   #52
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What is the main goal in sports car ? Efficiency or beauty ?
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Old 5 Jul 2003, 10:46 (Ref:653186)   #53
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Some wonderful photos on Vic Elford's site- the Shadow again:

http://www.vicelford.com/gallery/6large.jpg

(It isn't until you see a pic of the actual car with a driver in it that you appreciate just how weird it was....)
Thats why it was nick named "The Rollerskate"

Smokie Yunnicks effort was not all that bad looking a machine, just different. I have pictures of it from the Goodwood FOS from a few years back, even got a large poster of it signed by Smokie, sadly he has died since then though.
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Old 5 Jul 2003, 12:59 (Ref:653270)   #54
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edu, thanks! The Karman Ghia is great (I want one!)
My very first car (at 19) was a Kharman Ghia.
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Old 5 Jul 2003, 22:18 (Ref:653611)   #55
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Bet it didn't have a Porsche engine stuffed in it! (in the Central Florida area there is a VW camper fitted with a 911 engine. Fortunatly they have also fitted discs and improved the suspension. Also has a full roll cage in the cab).

First edu comes up with that ugly beast thing, and then he comes up with nice looking cars.

I remember years ago reading about the Le Mans winning Matra Simca (1972), and the desciption said 'ugly as only an aerodynamically perfect car could be.' I never thought the Matras ugly. 'Course, if you win Le Mans three times in a row I guess that makes it beautiful!
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Old 6 Jul 2003, 22:54 (Ref:654282)   #56
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Escort Can Am

Put the driver in 1 sidepod and the engine in the other, make the center section a big aerofoil and heres what you get. Looks worse from above.
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Old 6 Jul 2003, 23:32 (Ref:654298)   #57
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might work though, did it?
where di you get that photo?
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Old 7 Jul 2003, 02:54 (Ref:654376)   #58
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That is the Herb Adams Can Am car, isn' it?

Didn't work that I recall.
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Old 7 Jul 2003, 10:29 (Ref:654619)   #59
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Nardi had tried the 'twin-boom' concept with the driver and engine in separate pods at Le Mans back in the 50's- didn't work then either.....
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I remember years ago reading about the Le Mans winning Matra Simca (1972), and the desciption said 'ugly as only an aerodynamically perfect car could be.' I never thought the Matras ugly. 'Course, if you win Le Mans three times in a row I guess that makes it beautiful!
I think this 'ugly Matra' thing has come up in another thread in the past -I don't get it either- they've never struck me as particularly ugly.....
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The Ferrari 312 of that era was much more attractive, but the Matra rulled Le Mans. It had a girl next door attractiveness!
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Old 8 Jul 2003, 20:26 (Ref:656203)   #62
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Panoz GT-1. Sitting next to the McLarens,CLK-GTR's and Porsche GT-1 97's it looked goofy.
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Old 9 Jul 2003, 18:47 (Ref:657193)   #63
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The Ferrari Enzo/Maserati Whatever looks hideous, like the road going version, too.
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Old 10 Oct 2007, 16:18 (Ref:2036983)   #64
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Yes, I'm reviving this thread, instead of starting another.

My contribution, the Mantac GTP car. Ick. No visible wheels. Looks like a UFO.
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Old 10 Oct 2007, 18:45 (Ref:2037090)   #65
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Kremer CK5?

http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-06-19-022.jpg

i'd rag that.
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Old 10 Oct 2007, 18:55 (Ref:2037136)   #66
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Forgot the picture for mine.

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i'd've said that was funny, not ugly.

kinda like Jade Goody, only smaller, quieter and more aerodynamic.
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Old 10 Oct 2007, 20:05 (Ref:2037184)   #68
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Oh c'mon! The CK5 was awsome!
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Old 10 Oct 2007, 20:12 (Ref:2037191)   #69
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Any of the current p cars are closer to butt ugly than even being plane jane.
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i'd've said that was funny, not ugly.

kinda like Jade Goody, only smaller, quieter and more aerodynamic.
Nah mate, mostly all of the original GrpC cars were hideous, the greenhouse was WAY too tall.
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Some of those eaely Mazda's were awful !!! http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-06-17-087.jpg
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Some of those eaely Mazda's were awful !!! http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-06-17-087.jpg
That one would look right at home in Grand Am. I quite like it!
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Old 10 Oct 2007, 21:03 (Ref:2037242)   #73
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beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder... does that mean I have ugly eyes??

I like that Mazda.

Whereas the current Mosler somehow just doesn't hang together, to me... but it's not hideous tho'

and the early Domes are rather funky.... mind you, anything with Roland Synthesizer sponsorship is always gonna get my vote. Off-topic, je connais, but has any other musical instrument manufacturer sponsored a car?

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Seek out the Pegasus-BMW. It's what you get if you cut the top off a rather modsports IMSA Lotus Esprit, stuff some unlikely wings onto it and weld half an oilrig on top as a rollcage.

The kind of thing that could only appear in the formative years of a doomed category - IMSA WSC in this case.
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has any other musical instrument manufacturer sponsored a car?
Yamaha. Lots
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