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Old 5 Feb 2004, 19:32 (Ref:864428)   #1
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Jos and Jordan : its over and out

Just been reading on Dutch ceefax and on Jos'website : Its over and out. "we did our best to come to an agreement, but despite all time and effort we couldn't agree on all points...

So i guess this is the final word....

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Old 5 Feb 2004, 19:42 (Ref:864439)   #2
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Good news. Hopefully Allan McNish will now be signed up.
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Old 5 Feb 2004, 19:50 (Ref:864452)   #3
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I hope and expect mr. Perridon will stand by his statement that in this case Trust will definetly not sponsor Jordan. Maybe the sponsormoney can be used for another Dutch driver. Cause it seems to me the "end of an era", for Dutch motorsport at least

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Old 5 Feb 2004, 19:51 (Ref:864455)   #4
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Well the coming season will be less interesting for me without Verstappen.

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I hope and expect mr. Perridon will stand by his statement that in this case Trust will definetly not sponsor Jordan. Maybe the sponsormoney can be used for another Dutch driver. Cause it seems to me the "end of an era", for Dutch motorsport at least
Maybe Mercedes factory driver Christijan Albers in the Trust Jordan-Mercedes in 2005?

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Old 5 Feb 2004, 19:54 (Ref:864458)   #5
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I hope and expect mr. Perridon will stand by his statement that in this case Trust will definetly not sponsor Jordan. Maybe the sponsormoney can be used for another Dutch driver. Cause it seems to me the "end of an era", for Dutch motorsport at least

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believe me, he will, although there was an agreement with Jordan, without Jos in the car that deal does'nt go through.
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Old 5 Feb 2004, 20:07 (Ref:864482)   #6
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What was the stumbling block? On the face of it the Jordan seat was the only option for Jos, whilst the new Jordan wasn't exactly groaning with new sponsors stickers.

Surely a match?

I'm not particularly a Jos fan, but I can't see who else in the possible running for the seat, was a better option, unless they had more money - which looks unlikely.
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Old 5 Feb 2004, 20:10 (Ref:864485)   #7
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The Trust stickers were removed from the car after the initial shake-down test.
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so Jos was willing to make some consessions about the driver contract but Jordan would'nt meet Jos in the middle.
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Old 5 Feb 2004, 20:12 (Ref:864488)   #9
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The Trust stickers were removed from the car after the initial shake-down test.
No, they where on the car at wednesdays presentation.
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Old 5 Feb 2004, 20:13 (Ref:864492)   #10
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Maybe Mercedes factory driver Christijan Albers in the Trust Jordan-Mercedes in 2005?
That would be really great ! But just like you i feel that watching formula-1 2004 will be so much less fun without someone to cheer for...

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Old 5 Feb 2004, 20:14 (Ref:864494)   #11
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According to grandprix.com there are other drivers with almost as much money. (including Pantano - I'd love to see him in F1).
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So what is it with Mr Perridon & Jos?

Should the investors of Trust be concerned that its an "eggs in one basket" strategy that has left Trust with various layers of egg on face?
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Old 5 Feb 2004, 20:20 (Ref:864499)   #13
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According to grandprix.com there are other drivers with almost as much money. (including Pantano - I'd love to see him in F1).
so why was EJ so eager to sign Trust??(even putting stickers on the car before Jos was signed)
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Old 5 Feb 2004, 20:22 (Ref:864501)   #14
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I have no idea. The whole episode has been absurd.

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I know, I wonder if EJ can find a driver who will agree to his therms before the season starts, otherwise he'l have to drive the 2nd car himself.
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I know, I wonder if EJ can find a driver who will agree to his therms before the season starts, otherwise he'l have to drive the 2nd car himself.
Not that he is presently up to F1 standards, but EJ was a handy driver.
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I have no idea. The whole episode has been absurd.
Maybe this is all down to a telephone conversation. I expect a court case at any moment!

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Old 5 Feb 2004, 21:32 (Ref:864565)   #17
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We’ve had this before during these ongoing negotiations. Steve & Bridget, just relax and wait. The first time negotiations ended cause Peridon (=Trust) lost his nerve. After that they started negotiating again, through Huub Rothengatter. Well, we all know Huub is a tough negotiator and is there to get the job done in the benefit of Jos. So he and EJ clashed. Well, they’ll probably clash again and again, but in the end it’s will be best for Jos, Trust and Jordan to get an agreement. Just relax and wait for the outcome. It ain’t over till it’s over. And NGE don’t open the champagne bottle yet….
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Old 5 Feb 2004, 21:43 (Ref:864582)   #18
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So i guess this is the final word....
What, again?! I'll believe it when somebody from Jordan says so. Why on earth can't the Verstappen/Trust camp keep their collective mouths shut? Every other day for the past month we've heard them blabbing to the media about negotiations being on-again, off-again, on-again, off-again... Arrgghh!
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so Jos was willing to make some consessions about the driver contract but Jordan would'nt meet Jos in the middle.
Eh, that's according to Trust. I'm unsurprised that they would choose to paint themselves in a good light, but, on past behaviour, they've not got much credibility for anything they say.
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Jaap Van Laagan, Stefan De Groot and Door Knobs are all better than Jos anyway.
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Jaap Van Laagan, Stefan De Groot and Door Knobs are all better than Jos anyway.
I don't think they will ever be in F1 and certainly not for 108 GP's, Jaap van Lagen and Stefan de Groot have farr less talent than Jos, Stefan de Groot did'nt succeed in F3 and had to go back to Dutch Formula Renault where he did'nt exactly win the championship(I think he was 4th) and what has Jaap van Lagen won?? formula Volkswagen??, you can't compare that to a German F3 title can you??.

there are big talents in Holland but they are not it.

the names: Giedo van der Garde(in F3 euroseries for Signature next year, in Renault driver development program, discovered by Jos) and Paul Meijer(who will probably race in Formula renault V6)

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Old 5 Feb 2004, 22:28 (Ref:864646)   #21
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anyone hear about the possibility of giorgio pantano getting the jordan seat?...
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has Alf Boring been telling you that???
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There has been noise about a lot of people possibly lining up for Jordan, including most recently, Zsolt... despite the Minardi signing....
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Over at Autosport.com, Jos has apparently announced he wont be in F1 in 2004.... and nor will Trust

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"...unless another opportunity arises during the season..." So there still may be a chance he will fill in a vacancy if one of the other drivers gets released or injured. We'll have to wait and see.

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