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Old 8 Mar 2018, 02:23 (Ref:3806771)   #26
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Thanks Greg , you and I have conversed on this matter for a while now , these two famous FVA cars down under < fahey and Moffat via Holman and moody were both supplied from the factory , this we know , so who fabricated them , could it be Mo Gomm , did Mann build up spare cars but not documented, is there anyone still alive that worked at Byfleet who may know. Regards
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Old 8 Mar 2018, 04:12 (Ref:3806777)   #27
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Moffat's bio says :

"Ford was keen to push its small 1.6-litre Escort in the region and they'd brought a stove-hot version of the car to Australia for me to drive in 1970, alongside the Falcon GTHO and my own Mustang.
It had been built by the Alan Mann team, with whom I'd had my love-hate relationship in the States, and a similar car had carried Australia's Frank Gardner to the British Saloon Car Championship in 1968.
'My' car had at first been sent to the United States but, when Ford's plans shifted up a gear to go Trans-Am racing, it had sat in a corner of the workshop of Holman and Moody, one of Ford's racing teams. Al Turner knew it was there and brought it to Australia for me to race " etc etc.
No mention of what happened to the car subsequently as he indicates he couldn't wait for the Escort period to end so he could get hold of a V6 Capri.
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Old 26 Mar 2018, 01:50 (Ref:3810782)   #28
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Rob the reason that all sounds a bit odd to me is that the AMR chassis 'formula' was not the one that survived the Law of Natural Selection, the Broadspeed version was.

Remember Broadspeed had been given several new body shells at the same time as AMR prior to the 68 launch and in the same registration sequence to race in the 1300 class with the old Anglia pre-crossflow engine..

Every Escort since then has been built to Broadspeed chassis design and the AMR cars were consigned to the 'scrap bin' and sold off.

The last chat I had with Gillian and later owners Alec Poole and Harry Watkins confirmed how bad the AMR cars were to drive.

So anyone ordering a 'cutting edge' Escort in 1970 would have preferred a Broadspeed car if given the choice.

All speculative!
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Old 26 Mar 2018, 09:34 (Ref:3810859)   #29
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Remember Broadspeed had been given several new body shells at the same time as AMR prior to the 68 launch and in the same registration sequence to race in the 1300 class with the old Anglia pre-crossflow engine.

Are you sure they used the pre-crossflow engine? 1300cc, certainly, but surely the crossflow engine by 1968?
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Old 26 Mar 2018, 14:21 (Ref:3810950)   #30
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Remember Broadspeed had been given several new body shells at the same time as AMR prior to the 68 launch and in the same registration sequence to race in the 1300 class with the old Anglia pre-crossflow engine.

Are you sure they used the pre-crossflow engine? 1300cc, certainly, but surely the crossflow engine by 1968?
Absolutely. Up to 1968 BSCC regs allowed alternate heads on production blocks, that is how AMR ran the FVA head on the Twink block.

The regs changed the following year.

In 1968 the power of the VERY modified pre-crossflow Broadspeed head was better than the new crossflow.

I have pictures and can e-mail them if you'd like to post them.
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