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Old 2 Oct 2012, 10:21 (Ref:3145112)   #976
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I have to type this or my brain will explode!

It's "were", only the plural form of "to be" is used in the second "if" conditional whatever the number of the subject.

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And with that let's end the grammar debate.

Steady on old bean! Not as simple as that.. apparently:http://english.stackexchange.com/que...-or-if-it-were

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Old 12 Oct 2012, 09:37 (Ref:3150332)   #977
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It has been noted that there are a LOT of Porsche people in attendance here at Fuji – The data and intelligence-gathering process prior to their entry into LMP1 is truly in full swing.
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Old 13 Oct 2012, 09:00 (Ref:3150776)   #978
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According to RLM , the P1 was intended for ALMS ..... now I guess its a full blown assault against Toyota and Audi ...... bring it on !!!

Plus , Porsche have said they relish the chance to race against Audi ..... great news indeed !!!
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Old 13 Oct 2012, 22:56 (Ref:3151185)   #979
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In what way "intended"?
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According to RLM , the P1 was intended for ALMS ..... now I guess its a full blown assault against Toyota and Audi ...... bring it on !!!

Plus , Porsche have said they relish the chance to race against Audi ..... great news indeed !!!
Im confused with this Porsche program, because somewhere in this thread didnt someone post an interview that said they werent going to race in ALMS? or was that that they werent gonna be with Penske? Either way, Porsche vs Audi... :P
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Old 13 Oct 2012, 23:31 (Ref:3151200)   #981
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Porsche programs intentions are laid out in this interview, which incidentally was before the merger was announced.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120910/alms/120919979
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Old 15 Oct 2012, 10:43 (Ref:3152113)   #982
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In what way "intended"?
For the ALMS series as opposed the WEC , from what I picked up from RLM .
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Old 15 Oct 2012, 13:17 (Ref:3152191)   #983
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You have to love the snobbery of the F1 paddock - with Porsche hiring some F1 people they have assumed they are going to start in F1 as the investment would not be worth it "only for Le Mans"

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Old 15 Oct 2012, 13:36 (Ref:3152197)   #984
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You have to love the snobbery of the F1 paddock - with Porsche hiring some F1 people they have assumed they are going to start in F1 as the investment would not be worth it "only for Le Mans"

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ru...gns-f1-people/
You gotta love the media when they quote themselves as the paddock and therefor a credible source :
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Old 15 Oct 2012, 13:52 (Ref:3152209)   #985
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Would love to be a fly on the wall within Porsche right now. So excited to see them race in '14.
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Would love to be a fly on the wall within Porsche right now. So excited to see them race in '14.
We need someone in this forum who can tap their emails, leak all the good stuff to us in secret
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You gotta love the media when they quote themselves as the paddock and therefor a credible source :
Some of it's just to create news.
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Old 15 Oct 2012, 14:13 (Ref:3152235)   #988
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However if true and if for the Le Mans programme it add credibility to the hope that Porsche and Audi will compete at the same time.
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Old 15 Oct 2012, 14:26 (Ref:3152250)   #989
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However if true and if for the Le Mans programme it add credibility to the hope that Porsche and Audi will compete at the same time.
I thought this was "set in stone", that both Porsche and Audi would compete in 2014.
Audi has said that they are going for Porsches Le Mans record.
However i do not see the VAG group in F1 in the near future.
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There's always a lot at stake at each Le Mans.

You have to wonder who next year's race means more to in terms of an Audi win or a Toyota win?

Would a Toyota win scare off Audi for '14, leaving it to Porsche? I sincerely hope not. It's not like Audi are excelling in DTM.
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So did I.
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So did I.
We've seen nothing is 'set in stone' - but I also thought they'd said they'd duke it out.
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This isn't a hobby for these corporations, it is business. As we've seen from Peugeot, the plug can get pulled at any point in time, if for whatever reasons situations change that make the corporation's investment no longer seem worthy, or prudent.
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This isn't a hobby for these corporations, it is business. As we've seen from Peugeot, the plug can get pulled at any point in time, if for whatever reasons situations change that make the corporation's investment no longer seem worthy, or prudent.
Yes, but as you say, Situations change, as far as we know, nothing has hit VAG other than a booming sale from the Up/Citygo/Mii.
My, "Set in stone" was also a merely reference to the way it was said by Audi.

Aren't we all under the understanding that Audi and Porsche will both compete in 2014, as the situation is currently?
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Yes, but as you say, Situations change, as far as we know, nothing has hit VAG other than a booming sale from the Up/Citygo/Mii.
My, "Set in stone" was also a merely reference to the way it was said by Audi.

Aren't we all under the understanding that Audi and Porsche will both compete in 2014, as the situation is currently?
Situations change - it sounds like the primary goal of this project was to race in the ALMS. The ALMS won't be around for 2014, and as such they might be re-evaluating this project. Where did budget for this come from Porsche AG, or Porsche US? If it was partially funded by Porsche US, you can bet that money tree just wilted. Perhaps they'll modify their goal, or can the program... we shall find out.
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Situations change - it sounds like the primary goal of this project was to race in the ALMS. The ALMS won't be around for 2014, and as such they might be re-evaluating this project. Where did budget for this come from Porsche AG, or Porsche US? If it was partially funded by Porsche US, you can bet that money tree just wilted. Perhaps they'll modify their goal, or can the program... we shall find out.
Too late to can it, for a wealthy company (burned my finger last time, where i didn't say wealthy).
But if it's funded by Porsche USA, they will likely lobby a lot for LMP's
(No intentions to start a ALMS/Grand AM discussion in here)
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Perhaps they'll modify their goal, or can the program... we shall find out.
Doesn't sound like the amount of Porsche people in the paddock at Fuji as reported by Daily Sportscar have modified their goal. Or the people being hired.

I know that's the rumour but I highly doubt their aim was for anything but winning Le Mans - hence the first thing they said when they announced - 'Porsche is returning to Le Mans'.

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This isn't a hobby for these corporations, it is business. As we've seen from Peugeot, the plug can get pulled at any point in time, if for whatever reasons situations change that make the corporation's investment no longer seem worthy, or prudent.
and also often we can see that it comes into conflict inside the companies with the stakeholder, management and the shareholders about longterme targets and shortterme profits...

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This is a Porsche AG project that encompasses a substantial investment in new facilities and technology. The targets from inception where the 24hrs and WEC, a Sebring debut was envisaged when that was part of the WEC, the only other ALMS link has been with a Greg Pickett run privateer effort.

The new motorsport department will also be involved in a far bigger presence in GTE and a possible Cayman GT car.
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This is a Porsche AG project that encompasses a substantial investment in new facilities and technology. The targets from inception where the 24hrs and WEC, a Sebring debut was envisaged when that was part of the WEC, the only other ALMS link has been with a Greg Pickett run privateer effort.

The new motorsport department will also be involved in a far bigger presence in GTE and a possible Cayman GT car.
Welcome to the forum.
Do you have (or are you) a good source for this information?
I love the sound of it all
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