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Old 21 Dec 2006, 02:02 (Ref:1796365)   #1
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Best Privateer Prototype

Many of you guys do not think that Dyson moving to a P2 RS Spyder next year is a good thing. Classes aside, which do you guys think is the best privateer package to go after overall wins right now. Here's what I think

1. Porsche RS Spyder (P2)(for the ALMS)
1. Pescarolo Judd (P1)(for LMES + Lemans)
3. Courage LC70 Judd (P1)
4. Lola B05/40 AER (P2)
5. Lola B06/10 AER or Judd (P1)

There are several new chasis comming out next year, but are unproven at the moment. Dyson put themselves in the best car for the ALMS for going after overall victories.
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Old 21 Dec 2006, 02:06 (Ref:1796369)   #2
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Dyson put themselves in the best car for the ALMS for going after overall victories.
Doesn't the Audi R10 take that title?
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Old 21 Dec 2006, 03:32 (Ref:1796413)   #3
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I would think the Audi R10 had too much factory support to be considered a privateer. I would think the Champion R8 would be a better consideration of being a privateer. But that's SSSOOO 2005.
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Old 21 Dec 2006, 03:41 (Ref:1796419)   #4
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Many of you guys do not think that Dyson moving to a P2 RS Spyder next year is a good thing. Classes aside, which do you guys think is the best privateer package to go after overall wins right now. Here's what I think

1. Porsche RS Spyder (P2)(for the ALMS)
1. Pescarolo Judd (P1)(for LMES + Lemans)
3. Courage LC70 Judd (P1)
4. Lola B05/40 AER (P2)
5. Lola B06/10 AER or Judd (P1)

There are several new chasis comming out next year, but are unproven at the moment. Dyson put themselves in the best car for the ALMS for going after overall victories.
No Creation or Zytek? Frankly I'd put both at or near the top.
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Old 21 Dec 2006, 03:56 (Ref:1796427)   #5
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Why not? They're both better than 4 out of the 5 cars( with the Pesca being the obviouls exeception), and in some cases( Lola B06/10 AER, Courage LC70) by a long way. The Audi R8 is better than those car at least in reliabilty, and if they were allowed to run under ALMS '06 specs( post '03 or mayby slighty larger air restrictor, and with 35 kgs of ballast), the R8 would easily be as fast as the Pescarolo C60, and with it being as fast as the LC70 dispite the near 7 year gap in design( the orginal Courage C60 was designed in 1999, just like the R8), that's saying something when something that old isn't just able to win on reliability alone, but also speed.
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Old 21 Dec 2006, 04:16 (Ref:1796434)   #6
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The Audi R8 and the Pescarolo are probably the best privateer cars currently. Both are very fast for cars designed in 1999, and are very reliable, and are very easy to work on. That's why there never was privateer Bentleys-being built the traditional British way, the car used the lightest, smallest fasteners possible for that part, where as the R8 and Pesca use the same size fasteners where possible, for example.

In other words, the Speed 8s were a little to complex and expensive to be run successfuly by a privateer. And Bentley didn't want to keep a parts stock pile. They did what the wanted( win LM) and were gone. With that out in the open, here's my votes:

1 Pescarolo C60 Judd 5.0 or 5.5 V10

2 Audi R8 (ALMS only)

3 Creation/Zytec LMP1

4 Courage LC70

5 Lola B06/10

PS: the R8 would've scored higher, but the chances that it will see a race track in competitive anger in '07 in the ALMS is slim to none at best.

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Old 22 Dec 2006, 09:18 (Ref:1797434)   #7
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Creation, without a doubt
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Old 22 Dec 2006, 09:37 (Ref:1797443)   #8
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1:Zytek/Creation - LMP1
2:Lola B06/10 or EX264 - LMP1/LMP2
3:Pescarolo C60 Judd - LMP1
4:Courage C70 - LMP1
5:Porsche RS Spyder - LMP2
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Old 22 Dec 2006, 09:46 (Ref:1797451)   #9
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A Pescarolo, but Creation are definitely closing the gap.
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Old 22 Dec 2006, 12:07 (Ref:1797608)   #10
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No Creation or Zytek? Frankly I'd put both at or near the top.

I agree with you 100%, Mike....

BTW.....you might want to make just one more post....

Look at your total post count......EEEEKKKK
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Old 22 Dec 2006, 15:21 (Ref:1797762)   #11
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i would go on saying these are the best privateer prototypes in LMP1 and LMP2.

LMP1

pescarolo C60
courage LC70
zytek 06S
creation CA06H
dome HS101
lola B06/10
lavaggi LS1
lister storm hybrid
protran reynard hybrid

LMP2

porsche RS spyder
lola B05/40
radical SR9
courage C65
luchinni XV

if i was running a privateer team in the LMS i would go for the pescarolo or a courage LC70 mugen, the only thing been the LC70 mugen, although being massively quick it is unreliable, if it were reliable it certainly could have won the LMP1 title last year in the LMS.
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