Alonso's fist - Page 3

**Bononi** · 14 Nov 2010, 23:05 (Ref:2790678)

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Originally Posted by cptkablamo

What are you doing bringing this up? You know rational thought and/or history and/or facts have no place in an Alonso bashing thread!

That's very jab-ish of you guys !

Knowlesy · 15 Nov 2010, 01:41 (Ref:2790753)

I like Alonso (not as much as pre-2007 admittedly) and I thought his behaviour was an absolute disgrace. He is the most ridiculous sportsman on the planet at times, quite honestly.

Yeah he calmed down afterwards, but he still needs to realise the world doesn't revolve around him. Grow up Fernando.

We all like a bit of emotion, but there is emotion and there is plain stupidity.

sweetchuk · 15 Nov 2010, 02:17 (Ref:2790776)

It has to be further emphasized that Alonso's sense of entitlement reaches near hysterical heights at times, and has done so pretty much since 2004.

Racing for position, Petrov did a fine job, and Alonso had no call to yet again display his penchant for pettiness and bad sportsmanship.

When you're a champion, you are one at all times ... in that rarified air, your actions well reflect the person you are, and the world was given further glimpses of the child this surly Spaniard can be a lot of the time.

Comparing him to Senna is like comparing a grain of rice to a 5 course meal ... Alonso is not Senna's toenail on or off the track, although admittedly Ayrton did have his stupid moments, like they all do at that level from time to time.

It's just that Alonso seems to think he is actually someone for whom you'd move over ALL the time, no matter the situation. He wasn't good enough to take Petrov, so the next best thing he could do was childishly abuse him and make himself looks like the prat he is, with a rather large worldwide audience singing deja vu when they saw it.

Big man that ... huge.

**Peter Mallett** · 15 Nov 2010, 07:39 (Ref:2790841)

Actually, what really ****es me off is Vettel's finger. Alonso's fist was ok, just frustration, but the pointy finger of the WDC is getting right up my nose, if you see what I mean.

VIVA GT · 15 Nov 2010, 08:28 (Ref:2790853)

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Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Actually, what really ****es me off is Vettel's finger. Alonso's fist was ok, just frustration, but the pointy finger of the WDC is getting right up my nose, if you see what I mean.

Me too Peter. I've hated it after qualifying, and after the races. Now I'm worried that we'll be subjected to kit for the whole of next season as that's the number he's got on the front of his car...

parkingjedi · 15 Nov 2010, 10:48 (Ref:2790928)

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Originally Posted by ChrisPage

Even when praising Petrov he still said - "I tried to pass him once and he protected like it was the last lap, in the last race in the championship, fighting both for the championship, so he was very aggressive."

reminds me of aquote from the movie "Rudy"

Ara Parseghian: What's your problem, O'Hare, what's your problem?
Jamie O'Hara: Last practice of the season and this ******* thinks it's the Super Bowl!
Ara Parseghian: You just summed up your entire sorry career here in one sentence! If you had a tenth of the heart of Ruettiger, you'd have made All-American by now! As it is, you just went from third team to the prep team! Get out of here!

Petrov was fighting for his career as a F1 driver, by holding Alonso he was proving his worth. He had just as much to gain in holding off Alonso as Alonso had in passing him - relative to their goals.
And maybe Alonso forgot who engines were in the Red bull. Petrov knows which side of the bread has his butter.

jab · 15 Nov 2010, 10:52 (Ref:2790932)

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Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Actually, what really ****es me off is Vettel's finger. Alonso's fist was ok, just frustration, but the pointy finger of the WDC is getting right up my nose, if you see what I mean.

So you've got:

Alonso's fist
Vettel's finger
Webber's leg
Button's beard
Lewis' ear

JamesH · 15 Nov 2010, 10:55 (Ref:2790934)

I'm no Alonso fan, but it was just frustration. Not going to make him appear any worse in my eyes. He'd just lost the WDC because of something his team did. He didn't do anything wrong except not get past Petrov and we all know how difficult it is to overtake - LH could'nt get past RK either - so he was going to be a bit tetchy.

Interesting that nobody could get past those Renaults.

**garcon** · 15 Nov 2010, 11:30 (Ref:2790958)

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Originally Posted by jab

So you've got:

Alonso's fist
Vettel's finger
Webber's leg
Button's beard
Lewis' ear

Put those together and you'd have a definite medical NFN*.

* NFN = Normal for Norfolk.

JamesH · 15 Nov 2010, 12:16 (Ref:2790975)

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Originally Posted by garcon

Put those together and you'd have a definite medical NFN*.

* NFN = Normal for Norfolk.

Oi, I live on the Norfolk border. Fortunately just on the Cambridgeshire side though, so fair enough.

Super Hans · 15 Nov 2010, 12:35 (Ref:2790987)

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Originally Posted by JamesH

Oi, I live on the Norfolk border. Fortunately just on the Cambridgeshire side though, so fair enough.

Lucky you! Lovely part of the world.

**chunterer** · 15 Nov 2010, 15:02 (Ref:2791075)

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Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Actually, what really ****es me off is Vettel's finger. Alonso's fist was ok, just frustration, but the pointy finger of the WDC is getting right up my nose, if you see what I mean.

Yes Fernando was a bit hot headed after the race and I was expecting a tirade in the interviews but in fairness to the guy he seemed calm and philosophical about eveything that had happened.

Senna, Schu and god knows who else have been guilty of extreme arrogance and/or petulance towards others drivers in their careers. Alonso was just letting off a bit of steam, albeit in the wrong direction!

fourWheelDrift · 15 Nov 2010, 16:00 (Ref:2791109)

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Originally Posted by JamesH

Interesting that nobody could get past those Renaults.

To me they looked like they had great traction, they seemed to scamper away on the exit of every corner.

**chunterer** · 15 Nov 2010, 16:04 (Ref:2791116)

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Originally Posted by fourWheelDrift

To me they looked like they had great traction, they seemed to scamper away on the exit of every corner.

Not only that, but they were getting further and further ahead up until the braking zone at the end of that straight. 'Incredible'

EGG · 15 Nov 2010, 17:15 (Ref:2791154)

On somewhat the same subject, second year out and the circuit doesn't exactly seem conducive to overtaking. Massa stuck behind a STR for most if not all of the race, and Alonso unable to pass Petrov.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 16 Nov 2010, 00:19 (Ref:2791390)

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Originally Posted by TrapezeArtist

The toys and teddies will be flying around the Ferrari de-brief room tonight.

They are certainly flying around in Italy:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9192214.stm

As for the fist; lame.

gttouring · 16 Nov 2010, 05:43 (Ref:2791431)

Alonso reminds me of my departed brother - i have a soft spot for him- and Petrov drove brilliantly in a good car, bad luck in the race for alonso, no other yellow flags, and quite honestly i don't get it.
well no one was wrecked alonso will fight another day, and next year too

Robin_D · 16 Nov 2010, 06:18 (Ref:2791434)

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Originally Posted by Super Hans

Alonso just seems like a really emotional man.

And I bet he cried at the end of Free Willy.

rpolinski · 16 Nov 2010, 06:56 (Ref:2791442)

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Originally Posted by Robin_D

And I bet he cried at the end of Free Willy.

Yeah, cos Willy was supposed to move over and let him go thru first

sizzle · 16 Nov 2010, 12:05 (Ref:2791547)

Bloody hell if you guys are still carrying on about that bit of theatre what are you going to do for the next couple of months, maintain the rage I say!!

**Bononi** · 16 Nov 2010, 12:32 (Ref:2791553)

Oh my, now the off-season is a pain...

ChrisPage · 16 Nov 2010, 13:28 (Ref:2791590)

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Originally Posted by cptkablamo

What are you doing bringing this up? You know rational thought and/or history and/or facts have no place in an Alonso bashing thread!

Pretty sure at the time of Lewis' fist waving in Bahrain there was plenty of comment on here criticising him for it. Pretty sure most posts here too have said there was nothing particularly wrong with Alonso's fist waving here too. A range of opinion in both cases if you will, but not many people having the biased opinion being accused.

But then you know pointing out most folk are fair and rational has no place when you've got a chip on your shoulder!

Ralf's Girl · 16 Nov 2010, 22:47 (Ref:2791888)

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Originally Posted by rpolinski

Yeah, cos Willy was supposed to move over and let him go thru first

I don't think it was that big a deal - it was emotion and frustration, and he is only human. We all get annoyed when we think drivers are acting like robots, then we complain when they show some ordinary feelings? We can't have it both ways.

(That said, he did make himself look like a prat.)

Knowlesy · 16 Nov 2010, 23:05 (Ref:2791892)

Well frustration itself is no issue. I am as animated as anybody when I get annoyed. It was that he aimed it so directly at Petrov. I can't see any reason for that at all.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 16 Nov 2010, 23:09 (Ref:2791895)

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Originally Posted by Robin_D

And I bet he cried at the end of Free Willy.

I never saw that movie. Didn't they make a sequel?

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