2013 SCCA Pirelli World Challenge - Page 4

HJJ · 31 Jan 2013, 01:46 (Ref:3196426)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

Thought ACS has written off the GT at the '10 PLM? Did they buy it from Black Swan or Falken or was it a different build?

That was the ex-Black Swan/Falken car on Michelins.

broadrun96 · 31 Jan 2013, 02:23 (Ref:3196431)

K, figured you would know exactly which chassis it was. Was a pretty inglorious end for that one, spun in practice alone in the Esses wasn't it? Always ran a wild Mustang in WC, was a SERIOUS build-up to make a competitive car

Canada ALMS fan · 31 Jan 2013, 07:16 (Ref:3196433)

Canada ALMS fan · 31 Jan 2013, 07:24 (Ref:3196437)

Here was the car in its' original livery in 2008.

Coach Ep · 31 Jan 2013, 10:50 (Ref:3196524)

Believe it was in the Wednesday morning session, curbs probably still moisty...

**joeb** · 31 Jan 2013, 14:02 (Ref:3196581)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Believe it was in the Wednesday morning session, curbs probably still moisty...

I don't know that Wednesday was the correct day, I'd have to check my pics as well. That car looked so good, such a shame that it ended like that.

HJJ · 31 Jan 2013, 14:19 (Ref:3196588)

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Originally Posted by joeb

I don't know that Wednesday was the correct day,

Pretty sure it was Friday.

fieldodreams79 · 31 Jan 2013, 14:31 (Ref:3196591)

And I am pretty sure many cars have met their demise at that very same section of concrete.

Nick6 · 31 Jan 2013, 15:37 (Ref:3196617)

After a few google searches I think the Genoa Ford is a in-house build. Originally built to compete in the 25 hours of Thunderhill. The body work on it looks close to the Doran Fords.

Dang... almost forgot how nice the GT looked in ACS colors. Shame about that effort, and it happened right in front of me that year at PLM.

ptclaus98 · 31 Jan 2013, 15:39 (Ref:3196618)

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Originally Posted by Canada ALMS fan

Here was the car in its' original livery in 2008.

Such a looker in that Falken tire livery. Shame it never worked out.

JHamilton · 31 Jan 2013, 15:42 (Ref:3196620)

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Originally Posted by HJJ

Pretty sure it was Friday.

I thought it was Thursday.

Fogelhund · 31 Jan 2013, 15:49 (Ref:3196623)

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...day-notebook1/

This suggests Friday.

MitchZ06 · 31 Jan 2013, 15:57 (Ref:3196629)

"Posted October 01, 2010 Braselton, GA"

Lol what?

WMUCarGuy · 31 Jan 2013, 16:48 (Ref:3196644)

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Originally Posted by HJJ

Kenetic never had Ford GT (at least the kenetic motorsports that ran the Kia program last year). That car was more production based and ran the supercharge production motor. He was on the Ford GT boards a couple of years ago. This is similar the Robertson track day or show car.

Doran built 4 chassis. The original Black Swan/Falken tire car. Written off at Petit in '10(?) The Robertson's have two and Doran has a roller.

I believe Doran actually built 6 chassis and that Oliver Kuttner has one, or both.

WMUCarGuy · 31 Jan 2013, 16:51 (Ref:3196645)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...day-notebook1/

This suggests Friday.

It was Friday. I always get to Petit Thursday afternoon, watch night practice and then all of Friday/Saturday and I remember seeing their car hauled away Friday morning on that flatbed.

MitchZ06 · 31 Jan 2013, 17:00 (Ref:3196649)

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Originally Posted by MitchZ06

"Posted October 01, 2010 Braselton, GA"

Lol what?

Nevermind, got my wires crossed thinking I was reading a different thread...

HJJ · 31 Jan 2013, 17:02 (Ref:3196651)

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Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

I believe Doran actually built 6 chassis and that Oliver Kuttner has one, or both.

You may be right, but I know of only four. Kevin Doran rented out his rig to the Robertson at Petit in '10 when they added the second "pro" car and brought a roller down with him hoping to sell it to Robertson's. However, "H" Craft and the team had modified both chassis so much that the roller didn't resemble their cars.

The Robertson Racing Ford GT's are at Sebring this weekend running the SVRA event with Dave and Andrea driving.

Found this:

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...hases-ford-gt/

Canada ALMS fan · 31 Jan 2013, 17:27 (Ref:3196661)

Quote:

Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

I believe Doran actually built 6 chassis and that Oliver Kuttner has one, or both.

I would be curious how far along they are if they exist? And, are they built to GT2 spec? I spoke to Oliver directly at Sebring 2008 and he had indicated 5 & 6 would only be built if buyers were found. Are you referring to the 2 track day cars running around, one of which is the Robertsons' test mule?
Also, the same weekend ACS wrote theirs off, Matech was in the Petit paddock shopping their GTE version of the Ford GT around. I was lucky enough to see the package but they were clearly on a fishing expedition. They did not appear to have any solid leads.

Coach Ep · 31 Jan 2013, 20:01 (Ref:3196721)

Would certainly be nice to see one or more of those Doran cars run in this year's championship.

Canada ALMS fan · 31 Jan 2013, 20:54 (Ref:3196750)

Is this the last year of their homologation?

HJJ · 1 Feb 2013, 01:37 (Ref:3196852)

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Originally Posted by Canada ALMS fan

Is this the last year of their homologation?

Would need an exemption this year. Last year was it. Oh, and maybe $4M to run ALMS w/o Sebring. And a tire contract as well. That would be a start.

TF110 · 1 Feb 2013, 01:51 (Ref:3196854)

What's the difference between the Matech and the Doran? I know the Matech used to run in GT3 and then GT1, but that car was 2100mm wide, isn't the Doran slimmer? I don't follow these closely but I was always a fan of the Matech version of the car.

Canada ALMS fan · 1 Feb 2013, 02:17 (Ref:3196868)

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Originally Posted by HJJ

Would need an exemption this year. Last year was it. Oh, and maybe $4M to run ALMS w/o Sebring. And a tire contract as well. That would be a start.

Thanks, couldn't remember when it lapsed. You have to love folks who are so passionate as to spend a good chunk of their net worth to pursue their dreams. It was probably a pleasure to work with them. He made it pretty clear without a major sponsor 2010 was it. Bryan Wilman said the same in 2011, he wanted to continue but didn't want to go broke racing. Others are not so smart...

Nick6 · 1 Feb 2013, 07:20 (Ref:3196923)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HJJ

Would need an exemption this year. Last year was it. Oh, and maybe $4M to run ALMS w/o Sebring. And a tire contract as well. That would be a start.

This thought came to me the other day. Get a Ford GT and get a waiver on the age limit rule.

Ratzenberger · 15 Feb 2013, 15:22 (Ref:3205352)

Is this the only series in North America where GT3's are allowed to run? I haven't seen discussion on these forums of any others.

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