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Old 17 Jul 2004, 12:27 (Ref:1038953)   #1
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Paffett has taken pole, just ahead of Alesi...now to find that German channel that'll show it tomorrow morning.

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Old 17 Jul 2004, 12:32 (Ref:1038957)   #2
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the channel is ARD and you should get it via astra analog and digital
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Old 17 Jul 2004, 13:44 (Ref:1039004)   #3
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ARD will show race live at 8:30h CET
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Old 17 Jul 2004, 14:15 (Ref:1039024)   #4
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only the 2nd race will be live
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Old 17 Jul 2004, 19:03 (Ref:1039150)   #5
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Really? Oh well, I'm not likely to bump into the result any earlier anyway.

Found the channel...(Tour de France on all day so far, I believe that's the right one), 7:30am though sadly for me.
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Old 17 Jul 2004, 23:26 (Ref:1039322)   #6
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gives a write up but wether it's available bia the net.... ?
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 07:12 (Ref:1039438)   #7
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haha no live coverage
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 07:29 (Ref:1039440)   #8
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What's going on? Race got red flagged and now metal paintings on...

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Old 18 Jul 2004, 07:33 (Ref:1039443)   #9
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What actually is happening? Sorry my German is not up to much.Live coverage started at 7.30 here (8.30CET)So far we have seen mostly Ellen Lohr talking to presenter.Race started,and was imediately red flagged due to shunt.Coverage stopped at 9.10CET.Will race restart and will there be any coverage? Motors TV normally also covers DTM (in English) but I can't see anything listed.
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 07:44 (Ref:1039448)   #10
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No MotorsTV until highlights next week...

As for DTM on ARD...nothing yet. Not likely either?
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 08:10 (Ref:1039454)   #11
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Mayländer drove over a lose sewer cover and now it seems they are welding all 72 sewer covers, if there will be any race ARD wont show it live
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 09:39 (Ref:1039487)   #12
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1. Gary Paffett HWA AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 1m 14.529s
2. Jean Alesi HWA AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 1m 14.553s
3. Tom Kristensen Audi Sport Team Abt Sportsline Audi A4 DTM 1m 14.557s
4. Martin Tomczyk Audi Sport Team Abt Sportsline Audi A4 DTM 1m 14.699s
5. Emanuele Pirro Audi Sport Infineon Team Joest Audi A4 DTM 1m 14.775s
6. Bernd Schneider HWA AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 1m 15.211s
7. Heinz-Harald Frentzen OPC Team Holzer Opel Vectra GTS V8 1m 15.651s
8. Rinaldo Capello Audi Sport Infineon Team Joest Audi A4 DTM 1m 15.655s
9. Mattias Ekström Audi Sport Team Abt Sportsline Audi A4 DTM 1m 15.757s
10. Christijan Albers HWA AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 1m 16.595s
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 09:40 (Ref:1039488)   #13
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Non-super pole qualifiers:

11. Christian Abt Audi Sport Team Abt Sportsline Audi A4 DTM 1m 15.214s
12. Jarek Janis Rosberg AMG-Mercedes CLK 1m 15.465s
13. Markus Winkelhock Persson AMG-Mercedes CLK 1m 15.524s
14. Frank Biela Audi Sport Infineon Team Joest Audi A4 DTM 1m 15.879s
15. Marcel Fässler OPC Team Phoenix Opel Vectra GTS V8 1m 15.922s
16. Bernd Mayländer Rosberg AMG-Mercedes CLK 1m 16.325s
18. Timo Scheider OPC Team Holzer Opel Vectra GTS V8 1m 17.168s
19. Stefan Mücke Persson AMG-Mercedes CLK 1m 17.289s
20. Jeroen Bleekemolen OPC Euroteam Opel Astra V8 Coupé 1m 17.735s
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 11:12 (Ref:1039531)   #14
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race result

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you maybe need to copy&paste the link into your browser
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 12:39 (Ref:1039561)   #15
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Frentzen will race another year for Opel in DTM.
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 14:53 (Ref:1039622)   #16
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That link comes up as 'page unavailable' but full results can be found on the DTM site link.
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 15:25 (Ref:1039634)   #17
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Frentzen will race another year for Opel in DTM.
The qestion is, will next year be the last for Opel as well,
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 15:31 (Ref:1039639)   #18
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Paffett scores start-finish victory at Shanghai
Gary Paffett was the beaming winner of the DTM’s exhibition race in China. The Briton pulled off a magnificent start-finish triumph in his AMG-Mercedes C-Class on the 2.84 kilometre-long street circuit in Shanghai for an advantage of 0.887 seconds over his team mate Bernd Schneider.
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 16:24 (Ref:1039664)   #19
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The qestion is, will next year be the last for Opel as well,
Don't know. It's every year the same song with Opel. Their car hasn't the speed of the Audi and Mercedes so there's hope NEXT year the car is more competative.
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 16:38 (Ref:1039668)   #20
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is it a point race ??
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 16:48 (Ref:1039674)   #21
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 18:33 (Ref:1039734)   #22
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That was 'race two' according to the caption. What happened to race one? did that one not happen?
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 19:10 (Ref:1039764)   #23
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i think they skipped it because it was already getting dark
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 20:50 (Ref:1039833)   #24
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That was 'race two' according to the caption. What happened to race one? did that one not happen?
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A manhole cover came unstuck in the start phase of the first of the originally planned two races of 30 minutes each. Bernd Mayländer in an AMG-Mercedes CLK was unable to steer clear of a collision and rammed into the obstacle. As a result, the race was interrupted and the manhole covers were welded firm for safety reasons. The first race was therefore cancelled due to time constraints.
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Old 18 Jul 2004, 22:18 (Ref:1039928)   #25
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Can't say that was a fantastic start then for the race's in China.

Here's hoping Schuey loses his undertray to a manhole cover [Though by China, he will be the champion anyway].

Well done Gary, sounds like he vs Bernd should be good to see.

Looks like some drivers may have tried harder than others (i.e. Capello trying hard...Albers maybe not so?) - the lack of fear over championship points can always make a race interesting in other ways.

Expecting F1 bosses to be interested to see what happened at the first Chinese race - can't have done Paffett any harm by winning it.
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