Home Mobile Forum News Cookbook FaceBook Us T-Shirts etc.: Europe/Worldwide. eBay Motorsport Links Advertising Live Chat  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Saloon & Sportscar Racing > Sportscar & GT Racing > ACO Regulated Series


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11 Aug 2017, 06:15 (Ref:3758733)   #5806
AoB Special Stage
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Estonia
Posts: 867
AoB Special Stage should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridAoB Special Stage should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akrapovic View Post
I like variety, which is something EV racing cannot offer. I like V4 through to V12, NA, Turbo and even the LMP Diesels. Variety is part of what makes Le Mans so amazing track side and it'll be sad when it's gone.
I assure you that's not entirely the case.
AoB Special Stage is online now  
__________________
. . . but I'm not a traditionalist so maybe my opinion doesn't count! -TF110
Quote
Old 12 Aug 2017, 00:42 (Ref:3758928)   #5807
CyberMotor
Veteran
 
CyberMotor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
United States
Posts: 1,085
CyberMotor should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridCyberMotor should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridCyberMotor should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridCyberMotor should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
I think some of you are judging the electricity-generation as a function of the 'grid'. I think the future of electric vehicles is having charging stations spaced out that generate their own juice without the need of the grid.

The big shift that Henry Ford caused was having your own engine and fuel supply that was independent.

Independence of the grid is the future. I also think that the roofs of the transporters can hold enough power generating tools to supply a team and car(s) for an entire weekend.

Driving up and running a weekend without plugging in should be the goal.

That way, the coal-produced electricity becomes a non-issue.
CyberMotor is offline  
Quote
Old 15 Aug 2017, 09:14 (Ref:3759484)   #5808
Rennen
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
United Kingdom
Hertfordshire
Posts: 2,044
Rennen should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridRennen should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridRennen should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridRennen should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Lend Lease

With Porsche having proven their point, it leaves TMG Toyota with a dilemma...race at Le Mans and try and win albeit against themselves. Leave the WEC and go Rallying instead...Or why not Lend, Lease or Sell off their old race cars (with help) to Privateer teams and keep the Hybrid class championship alive?
Rennen is offline  
Quote
Old 15 Aug 2017, 16:41 (Ref:3759562)   #5809
chernaudi
Veteran
 
chernaudi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
United States
Mansfield, Ohio
Posts: 7,487
chernaudi has a real shot at the podium!chernaudi has a real shot at the podium!chernaudi has a real shot at the podium!chernaudi has a real shot at the podium!chernaudi has a real shot at the podium!
Privateers don't have the money or the technical resources to run one of these cars on their own, or even probably with help from the factory.

Really, the last time that privateers got their hands on factory spec cars was when Audi Sport and Panoz sold some R8s and LMP1 Roadsters to customer teams. I think that the era of customer teams, be it fully privateer or semi-factory, are pretty much over without a technological reset.

These cars make even the Audi R18 e-tron quattro and Toyota TS030 from 2013 look almost AK-47 simple. Which means that the old R8 is about as simple as a rock if you want to look at weaponry.

The new cars from Ginetta, Dallara and whoever else wants to throw their hat into the ring will be customer friendly, but they won't have hybrids.

Peugeot's efforts could probably create a customer friendly hybrid LMP1, but I know that people will also look down on their requests as "dumbing down" LMP1 tech.
chernaudi is offline  
Quote
Old 15 Aug 2017, 16:43 (Ref:3759563)   #5810
Akrapovic
Veteran
 
Akrapovic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Scotland
Posts: 4,735
Akrapovic is going for a new world record!Akrapovic is going for a new world record!Akrapovic is going for a new world record!Akrapovic is going for a new world record!Akrapovic is going for a new world record!Akrapovic is going for a new world record!Akrapovic is going for a new world record!Akrapovic is going for a new world record!
Quote:
Originally Posted by chernaudi View Post
Privateers don't have the money or the technical resources to run one of these cars on their own, or even probably with help from the factory.

Really, the last time that privateers got their hands on factory spec cars was when Audi Sport and Panoz sold some R8s and LMP1 Roadsters to customer teams. I think that the era of customer teams, be it fully privateer or semi-factory, are pretty much over without a technological reset.

These cars make even the Audi R18 e-tron quattro and Toyota TS030 from 2013 look almost AK-47 simple. Which means that the old R8 is about as simple as a rock if you want to look at weaponry.

The new cars from Ginetta, Dallara and whoever else wants to throw their hat into the ring will be customer friendly, but they won't have hybrids.

Peugeot's efforts could probably create a customer friendly hybrid LMP1, but I know that people will also look down on their requests as "dumbing down" LMP1 tech.
ORECA did win Sebring with a 908 remember.
Akrapovic is offline  
Quote
Old 15 Aug 2017, 16:43 (Ref:3759564)   #5811
TF110
Veteran
 
TF110's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
United States
Posts: 12,937
TF110 should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTF110 should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTF110 should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTF110 should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rennen View Post
With Porsche having proven their point, it leaves TMG Toyota with a dilemma...race at Le Mans and try and win albeit against themselves. Leave the WEC and go Rallying instead...Or why not Lend, Lease or Sell off their old race cars (with help) to Privateer teams and keep the Hybrid class championship alive?
I have a feeling that with Murata now head of TMG and him being the proponent of the hybrid, that TMG may be heading towards offering a customer option for a hybrid system. If not then there is another story to unfold with his promotion.
TF110 is offline  
Quote
Old 15 Aug 2017, 19:59 (Ref:3759613)   #5812
chernaudi
Veteran
 
chernaudi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
United States
Mansfield, Ohio
Posts: 7,487
chernaudi has a real shot at the podium!chernaudi has a real shot at the podium!chernaudi has a real shot at the podium!chernaudi has a real shot at the podium!chernaudi has a real shot at the podium!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akrapovic View Post
ORECA did win Sebring with a 908 remember.
I wouldn't call Oreca a privater team in the conventional sense. They were basically a fourth factory car in all but name in 2010 and early 2011. From LM onwards, I'd agree with your assessment, but they were pretty much another factory 908 until then.
chernaudi is offline  
Quote
Old 15 Aug 2017, 20:03 (Ref:3759615)   #5813
deggis
Veteran
 
deggis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Finland
Posts: 5,617
deggis is going for a new lap record!deggis is going for a new lap record!deggis is going for a new lap record!deggis is going for a new lap record!deggis is going for a new lap record!deggis is going for a new lap record!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rennen View Post
With Porsche having proven their point, it leaves TMG Toyota with a dilemma...race at Le Mans and try and win albeit against themselves. Leave the WEC and go Rallying instead...Or why not Lend, Lease or Sell off their old race cars (with help) to Privateer teams and keep the Hybrid class championship alive?
They already went rallying (WRC) this year. And TMG only does the engine, apparently.
deggis is offline  
Quote
Old 15 Aug 2017, 22:34 (Ref:3759639)   #5814
TF110
Veteran
 
TF110's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
United States
Posts: 12,937
TF110 should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTF110 should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTF110 should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTF110 should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by deggis View Post
They already went rallying (WRC) this year. And TMG only does the engine, apparently.
True. And the wrc is not going to be allowing hybrids for the foreseeable future. Toyota wants to promote that and only the WEC or F1 allow hybrids right now. So imo they're staying put. They hopefully have some good competition in the future to help them with the reasons for staying aside from the hybrid aspect.
TF110 is offline  
Quote
Old 15 Aug 2017, 22:45 (Ref:3759643)   #5815
Bcarr6
Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,005
Bcarr6 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Let's have a simple tweak-

Give one car to Toms

Gazoo VS Toms

Brand the toms car as a Lexus, advertise both brands while you're at it


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Bcarr6 is offline  
Quote
Old 15 Aug 2017, 22:46 (Ref:3759644)   #5816
AoB Special Stage
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Estonia
Posts: 867
AoB Special Stage should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridAoB Special Stage should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
I'm not sure how Toyo would feel about brand inter-competition. And SARD is the one that's itching to go to France.
AoB Special Stage is online now  
__________________
. . . but I'm not a traditionalist so maybe my opinion doesn't count! -TF110
Quote
Old 16 Aug 2017, 04:59 (Ref:3759669)   #5817
carbsmith
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 842
carbsmith should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridcarbsmith should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridcarbsmith should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
SARD has basically always brought at least one of their own car, I think that's an important part of the project to them.
carbsmith is offline  
Quote
Old 26 Aug 2017, 02:44 (Ref:3761653)   #5818
hondafan37
Veteran
 
hondafan37's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Argentina
Buenos Aires, Argentine
Posts: 1,270
hondafan37 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Pechito Lopez and Sébastien Buemi were testing the TS 050 in Magny-Cours On Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday this week.
"Everything went very well, I did many laps and that helps me to continue learning," "Some things were tested for Mexico and there the objective will be to fight Porsche", said Pechito. On Tuesday he gave 180 laps and on Wednesday 250.


http://deskgram.org/p/1587681152729923821_180335270
http://www.campeones.com.ar/0/nota/index.vnc?id=53298
hondafan37 is online now  
Quote
Old 26 Aug 2017, 06:09 (Ref:3761667)   #5819
TF110
Veteran
 
TF110's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
United States
Posts: 12,937
TF110 should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTF110 should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTF110 should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTF110 should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Cool, thanks for finding that. I saw someone mention on twitter there was a Toyota there at Magny Cours but he didn't say who was there testing.
TF110 is offline  
Quote
Old 1 Sep 2017, 20:47 (Ref:3763540)   #5820
AoB Special Stage
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Estonia
Posts: 867
AoB Special Stage should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridAoB Special Stage should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/n...until-october/

*sigh*
AoB Special Stage is online now  
__________________
. . . but I'm not a traditionalist so maybe my opinion doesn't count! -TF110
Quote
Reply

Bookmarks




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[WEC] Porsche LMP1 Discussion Simmi ACO Regulated Series 8259 9 Oct 2017 17:46
Audi LMP1 Discussion gwyllion ACO Regulated Series 11685 16 Feb 2017 09:42
Nissan LMP1 Discussion Gingers4Justice Sportscar & GT Racing 5568 17 Feb 2016 22:22
[LM24] Peugeot/Toyota/Porsche LMP1 Debuts Speedblood ACO Regulated Series 23 29 Jun 2014 23:05
The never ending Toyota return to Le Mans (LMP1) Saga The Badger ACO Regulated Series 6844 8 Jan 2014 01:19


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT. The time now is 00:50.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2016 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.