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Old 28 Jul 2017, 12:58 (Ref:3755071)   #16
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I think Toyota will stay for 2018 so that they can finally get their name on the roster of Le Mans winners (and pick up another world championship), then quit - maybe to build a DPi?
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Old 28 Jul 2017, 13:02 (Ref:3755073)   #17
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I think Toyota will stay for 2018 so that they can finally get their name on the roster of Le Mans winners (and pick up another world championship), then quit - maybe to build a DPi?
I could see them bringing Lexus back to prototype ranks with Acura being back and in the same series now.
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Old 28 Jul 2017, 13:14 (Ref:3755074)   #18
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Have nothing but resepect for Toyota. They came into WEC a year early - to fill the Pegeout vacuum. A great competitor with some bad luck.
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Old 28 Jul 2017, 13:42 (Ref:3755080)   #19
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Maybe Toyota could run 4 cars at LM next year. Two from Toyota and two from Lexus. Although with their luck a 'Lexus' would win.
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Old 28 Jul 2017, 14:23 (Ref:3755090)   #20
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Maybe Toyota could run 4 cars at LM next year. Two from Toyota and two from Lexus. Although with their luck a 'Lexus' would win.
Ha!

Bless their hearts, the Lexus probably wouldn't win either...
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Old 28 Jul 2017, 15:00 (Ref:3755101)   #21
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Isn't it funny - well, funny in a "hollow laugh" sense - that Peugeot, Audi and Porsche have all pulled out quite suddenly? My best guess is that Toyota will announce in the autumn that they're withdrawing at the end of 2018.
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Old 28 Jul 2017, 15:31 (Ref:3755108)   #22
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If you're a tech junkie like me Formula E is interesting even though the speeds and/or the racing is meh. I think it will catch up. Powertrain development is now open. I think the seasonal step approach has been good. In the future supposedly chassis devolopment will be open too. We shall see...oh and the real development will be in the energy density of the batteries.

For those who have not followed, here is a good description of the very different methods of motor/transmission combinations that the teams have used:

http://www.fiaformulae.com/en/news/2...-have-changed/
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Old 28 Jul 2017, 16:14 (Ref:3755121)   #23
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If you're a tech junkie like me Formula E is interesting even though the speeds and/or the racing is meh. I think it will catch up. Powertrain development is now open. I think the seasonal step approach has been good. In the future supposedly chassis devolopment will be open too. We shall see...oh and the real development will be in the energy density of the batteries.

For those who have not followed, here is a good description of the very different methods of motor/transmission combinations that the teams have used:

http://www.fiaformulae.com/en/news/2...-have-changed/
Honestly, to me Formula E is some kind of wrestling and not motorsport.
But the whole pack works so damn good that each other champ/series should take as example.
Races made as TV show in great location worldwide, great drivers average level and a lot of manufacturers involved.
Manufacturers get a huge international coverage with a low cost budget.

Races and performances are really cheap and shameful sometimes, but who cares?
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If you're a tech junkie like me Formula E is interesting even though the speeds and/or the racing is meh. I think it will catch up. Powertrain development is now open. I think the seasonal step approach has been good. In the future supposedly chassis devolopment will be open too. We shall see...oh and the real development will be in the energy density of the batteries.

For those who have not followed, here is a good description of the very different methods of motor/transmission combinations that the teams have used:

http://www.fiaformulae.com/en/news/2...-have-changed/
I'm a tech junkie, but as long as we're having fans vote on who gets a faster car, I'm not interested. I've watched it a few times and try to get into it, but it feels like a joke because of things like that.

Can we decide the grid on hashtags or something?
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Old 28 Jul 2017, 16:34 (Ref:3755130)   #25
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I'm a tech junkie, but as long as we're having fans vote on who gets a faster car, I'm not interested. I've watched it a few times and try to get into it, but it feels like a joke because of things like that.

Can we decide the grid on hashtags or something?
Too true. As was mentioned earlier in this post us Millennials are complicated breed, it's a good thing I was raised somewhat old school. If that's what it takes to get interest in motorsport, its is doomed. Acutally it's why I have a hard time with Drifting as well. The cars are awesome but only it weren't a judged event.
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Old 28 Jul 2017, 17:08 (Ref:3755142)   #26
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There's been too many proposals of new LMP1 manufacturers that haven't happened. We need to find a way to make it cost sustainable so these manufacturers can go through with their plans
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Old 28 Jul 2017, 17:12 (Ref:3755145)   #27
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Fan Boost barely affects the race, really. I would like to see it being ditched though.
But instead, there are more series adopting it, Stock Car Brasil now has the Hero Push, where you vote for 3 drivers to get one extra push-to-pass.
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Old 28 Jul 2017, 17:16 (Ref:3755148)   #28
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I may be 30 years old, but I don't get a lot of this green push. EVs are immature, new technology, with some big bugs that need worked out. That's why we have hybrids, in an attempt to overcome the shortcomings of both the ICE (emissions and fuel economy) and EVs (range and performance) until pure EVs can be made to work.

I want road relevancy as much as anyone else, but I also feel that if it can't be put to use soon after it's demonstrated on track, it's sort of useless. DFI ended up on VAG cars soon after Audi won LM in '01. Within a few years everyone and their brother was offering up turbocharged DFI cars.

Mind you, anything that can help the environment and conserve resources can only be a good thing in my mind. But you can't push a technology that clearly isn't ready for prime time yet, be it in racing or the real world. Which is why I think the ACO should push for renewable biofuels or synthetic fuels.

IMO, they pushed the hybrid stuff too hard, too fast, and initially gave teams only about three years to get there. Not to mention my feelings on the ERS incentive, meaning what the ACO originally said (all ERS classes roughly equal) vs what was delivered (huge incentive to run 6-8MJ).

In fact in part 2 of DSC's piece on the future of the LM24 and the WEC, one DSC writer last fall after Audi Sport announced their pull out, asked Lindsay Owen-Jones (who the ACO put in charge of the WEC's Endurance Committee) if the ACO made an error in doing things they way they did and how they did it, and if if presented a road block to teams entering LMP1.

Owen-Jones answer, essentially, was that it might have. And I can't fault him, because I agree with that assessment.

Best thing IMO that the ACO can do is maybe give into Peugeot's demands, as much as I see them as a dumbing down of the current rules. Put a hard cap on MJ categories, or make the lower categories more equal to the higher ones. Allow factory teams to either develop their own cars or base one off of one of the new LMP1 privateer chassis. Hell, even go back to running air restrictors instead of fuel flow meters if need be.

At this stage, if it reduces costs, generates interest, and provides close racing, we should be for it--provided that it has the potential to achieve that.
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Old 28 Jul 2017, 17:16 (Ref:3755149)   #29
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Fan boost is the kind of the thing that would look great....in an arcade console racing game that is. And even then there should be an option to turn it off.
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Yes, it sorta ruins the great concept that is Formula E, no skill involved
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