Kick Those Shoes Off and Relax. It's the Delta 2017 Tea Break

[bauble]

Originally Posted by morninggents

Welcome to this part of the forum owrforever. I thought you yanks were too sensible to venture on to this thread. Is this a first? Wait until Bauble finds out!

Oi! I heard that. Pardon?

I once actually knew an American I almost liked, so as long as he doesn't post to often, disagree with me, and is happy to insulted regularly, well I suppose we can tolerate a bit of US input. Now and again, although I find it significant that the firsts two letters of USeles are US.


That said glad to have you here Yank.

Bauble CSA.

[GORDON STREETER]

The first of the Streeter Dynasty (nephew) Harrison Baker is receiving a 1st BEeng (Hons) in Motorsport Engineering today at Oxford Brookes university . Well done !

[Peter Mallett]

Yup well done.

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

The first of the Streeter Dynasty (nephew) Harrison Baker is receiving a 1st BEeng (Hons) in Motorsport Engineering today at Oxford Brooks university . Well done !Attachment 49903

Wow! Congratulations. Any ideas who neph wants to work for?

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

Wow! Congratulations. Any ideas who neph wants to work for?

Not too sure but he was mad about McLaren "once" they need all the help they can get !

[morninggents]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

The first of the Streeter Dynasty (nephew) Harrison Baker is receiving a 1st BEeng (Hons) in Motorsport Engineering today at Oxford Brookes university . Well done !Attachment 49903

Pity you're not still racing the Anglia. He'd probably be able to show you how to shave off a second or so a lap!

Well done to him.

[delta]

Our last student got a 1st as well at Oxford Brooks.

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by delta

Our last student got a 1st as well at Oxford Brooks.

Forget McLaren- Delta Motorsport it is then, Gordon.....

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

Forget McLaren- Delta Motorsport it is then, Gordon.....

I'll have a word with Iain when I see him at his big "extravaganza" (as long as he pays me the appearance money) !!!

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by delta

Our last student got a 1st as well at Oxford Brooks.

So they are two a penny then !

[Peter Mallett]

Just been asked by Raphael de Borman if anyone has a spare banjo axle casing for a 64B steel wheels. Needs it for this weekend at Spa.

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Just been asked by Raphael de Borman if anyone has a spare banjo axle casing for a 64B steel wheels. Needs it for this weekend at Spa.

Nope, sorry can't help. An MG breaker probably best bet. Someone like MG Mecca or MGBhive. (Alternatives are available...)

[Mike Bell]

Just after I left base for the recent trip to Dijon, I spotted a dreaded Galaxy 'Enforcement' vehicle lurking in a side turning. Sure enough, it pulled out behind me, so I eased off and cruised behind a 7.5 tonner, close but not too close.... The Galaxy pulled out into the 'fast lane', overtook both of us, then turned on the 'follow me' sign. I reasoned that it was the small truck they were interested in, and sure enough, the Galaxy and it pulled into a large layby mile or so up the road. I could see that a bay was laid out and many 'Enforcers' were waiting for the prey... Phew! (Not that they'd find much wrong with my tacho- I'd only done 10 mins driving! )

Today, driving the tractor unit to Gt Yarmouth along the infamous Acle straight, I received several headlamp flashes and thumbs down signs from trucks going the other way. I slowed to 40, even though the truck limit is 50 (in case the authorities hadn't been told ), and sure enough on rounding a bend, there was the local 'Camera Partnership' van in a layby. However, as I approached, it pulled out and drove off towards Yarmouth.... Phew again!

Hope my luck holds.

[John Elwin]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

Just after I left base for the recent trip to Dijon, I spotted a dreaded Galaxy 'Enforcement' vehicle lurking in a side turning. Sure enough, it pulled out behind me, so I eased off and cruised behind a 7.5 tonner, close but not too close.... The Galaxy pulled out into the 'fast lane', overtook both of us, then turned on the 'follow me' sign. I reasoned that it was the small truck they were interested in, and sure enough, the Galaxy and it pulled into a large layby mile or so up the road. I could see that a bay was laid out and many 'Enforcers' were waiting for the prey... Phew! (Not that they'd find much wrong with my tacho- I'd only done 10 mins driving! )

Today, driving the tractor unit to Gt Yarmouth along the infamous Acle straight, I received several headlamp flashes and thumbs down signs from trucks going the other way. I slowed to 40, even though the truck limit is 50 (in case the authorities hadn't been told ), and sure enough on rounding a bend, there was the local 'Camera Partnership' van in a layby. However, as I approached, it pulled out and drove off towards Yarmouth.... Phew again!

Hope my luck holds.

Good to know truckers at least are still warning fellow drivers - or perhaps they were all foreign? I'd got the impression that such things were frowned-upon in overly PC GB these days.

Here everyone flashes to warn you, although the gendarmes are now whinging that it is preventing them from catching burglars etc, not that we seem to have many of them. More of a problem are the unmarked camera cars that have now been privatised... They are not easy to spot.

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by John Elwin

Good to know truckers at least are still warning fellow drivers - or perhaps they were all foreign? I'd got the impression that such things were frowned-upon in overly PC GB these days.

Here everyone flashes to warn you, although the gendarmes are now whinging that it is preventing them from catching burglars etc, not that we seem to have many of them. More of a problem are the unmarked camera cars that have now been privatised... They are not easy to spot.

I've seen unmarked cars on the sides of autoroutes setting up tripods & cameras- same crowd?

It may not be PC, but virtually every full size truck warned me. Cars, none. Thing is, if I'd gone past on the limiter @ 56mph, even though the limit on the road is 60, would I have got done as the truck limit is 50...... Is it human operator triggered or automatic?

[John Elwin]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

I've seen unmarked cars on the sides of autoroutes setting up tripods & cameras- same crowd?

It may not be PC, but virtually every full size truck warned me. Cars, none. Thing is, if I'd gone past on the limiter @ 56mph, even though the limit on the road is 60, would I have got done as the truck limit is 50...... Is it human operator triggered or automatic?

Wouldn't 56mph be 10% + 1 mph so excusable?

Re unmarked cars, they sneakily have cameras mounted behind the front number plate, so virtually impossible to spot until it is too late! They often use Meganes but no doubt other cars are available.

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by John Elwin

They often use Meganes but no doubt other cars are available.

No doubt John, mainly they use Ford's, Peugeot's and Renault's too. Others are available unfortunately. I've been lucky they dont check their photos when my trailer was caught as a normal vehicle when we're not allowed to do more than 110 km/h when pulling.
They turned almost all the automatic radars by 180° to catch the motorcycles too (which have to change their licence plates for bigger ones). We had several scandals with speed or red light radars, wrongly placed/ used or settled. I never heard about people having their money or points back in this case. Unfair.

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by John Elwin

Re unmarked cars, they sneakily have cameras mounted behind the front number plate, so virtually impossible to spot until it is too late! They often use Meganes but no doubt other cars are available.

Now that is sneaky!

We have this daft situation in UK where the HGV speed limit on dual carriageways is 60mph, and yet because of Euro compliance they are restricted to 56 mph (90kph). Wonder if a hard Brexit will sort that! Yes, I do dream.....

[grantp]

Originally Posted by John Elwin

Wouldn't 56mph be 10% + 1 mph so excusable?

Re unmarked cars, they sneakily have cameras mounted behind the front number plate, so virtually impossible to spot until it is too late! They often use Meganes but no doubt other cars are available.

The recent fines and points revision information explicitly says that there are no margins that are excusable. That has always been the case but, with more money on the table and everyone whining that they are short of funds (to pay their pensions I assume) I would not rely in the old 10% allowance "understanding" at all.

Indeed one assumes that the income from Speed Awareness courses will now fall below the potential revenue from fixed penalty notices and so will be withdrawn - or maybe enforced in the +10% category.

I have noticed that money saving by local councils seems to have resulted in many speed limit signs being overgrown by trees and hedgerow. They will, of course, deny that when challenged and once trimmed there will be no evidence available.

One might incline towards the use of a dash cam although of course using the recording as evidence of a hidden sign might in fact prove to be self defeating in other ways.

The Dutch have been using unmarked cars with hidden cameras for years. But then they would since one of their nationals invented the speed camera.

[The Fat Clerk]

Here in rural Leicestershire I reckon I get flashed once a fortnight. It's never for the Rozzers because we haven't got any.
It's because there's Horses / Sheep / Cows / Cyclists (delete as applicable) all over the road.

[Tim Falce]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

Now that is sneaky!

We have this daft situation in UK where the HGV speed limit on dual carriageways is 60mph, and yet because of Euro compliance they are restricted to 56 mph (90kph). Wonder if a hard Brexit will sort that! Yes, I do dream.....

Just carry on dreaming, it was said today that all EU/UK laws will become UK laws after we leave, if that ever happens

[Peter Mallett]

If it ever happens, all that means is that the laws will be made statute. Once that happens the idea is to repeal the less useful laws. Can't do that if they aren't made statutory.

[Lancsbreaker]

Having fallen foul of a scamera van recently - heading up towards Blubberhouses from Bolton Abbey, if anyone knows it - two lanes uphill one down, but they've recently changed the bottom section to 50mph from 60mph, I can quote from North Yorkshire's leaflet on the topic.....

Re Mike's query : " The speed (limit) varies dependant on the road type and the classification of your vehicle" - so I guess they use ANPR and check your speed against limit for that vehicle (though of course they won't be able to spot trailers on cars/vans, generally......)

Qualification for a Speed Awareness Course (inter alia):

in a 50 mph speed limit - 57 to 64mph inclusive, which implies that they do allow some leeway (although not the full 10% +2 that ACPO used to recommend.) Sadly I was 66 in a 50 - although financially there is little difference - £85 for four hour course somewhere in North Yorks, versus £100 fixed penalty, but of course the latter carries 3 points, too.......

Apart from the obvious, thing that annoys me is that I now have to send them my licence, which they will return by second class post and WILL NOT (their caps) accept any responsibility for loss of a licence. (Wonder about the legality of that.......) Don't actually know why they want the licence - they don't record anything on it, AFAIK - been 11 years since I've had points, though.......

[John Elwin]

Originally Posted by Lancsbreaker

Having fallen foul of a scamera van recently - heading up towards Blubberhouses from Bolton Abbey, if anyone knows it - two lanes uphill one down, but they've recently changed the bottom section to 50mph from 60mph, I can quote from North Yorkshire's leaflet on the topic.....

Re Mike's query : " The speed (limit) varies dependant on the road type and the classification of your vehicle" - so I guess they use ANPR and check your speed against limit for that vehicle (though of course they won't be able to spot trailers on cars/vans, generally......)

Qualification for a Speed Awareness Course (inter alia):

in a 50 mph speed limit - 57 to 64mph inclusive, which implies that they do allow some leeway (although not the full 10% +2 that ACPO used to recommend.) Sadly I was 66 in a 50 - although financially there is little difference - £85 for four hour course somewhere in North Yorks, versus £100 fixed penalty, but of course the latter carries 3 points, too.......

Apart from the obvious, thing that annoys me is that I now have to send them my licence, which they will return by second class post and WILL NOT (their caps) accept any responsibility for loss of a licence. (Wonder about the legality of that.......) Don't actually know why they want the licence - they don't record anything on it, AFAIK - been 11 years since I've had points, though.......

Dangerous things these brain-washing courses. One friend of mine got sent on one earlier this year just for doing 36 in a 30. On the way home her Volvo was T-boned by an errant Honda, writing off her car. Another friend, who happens to be PR director for a major motor manufacturer went on one but was running a bit late & collected another speeding ticket on the way there!

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by John Elwin

Another friend, who happens to be PR director for a major motor manufacturer went on one but was running a bit late & collected another speeding ticket on the way there!

Bit like getting a drive through for speeding in the pit lane, then during the drive through, speeding again....