Dear WSR

DJJ · 31 May 2009, 09:39 (Ref:2472532)

Well done on using the blue flag to hold off Fabian of 2nd.

Laped car should of moved, well done Will.

yap · 31 May 2009, 09:52 (Ref:2472534)

It did look like Dumbo thought he was racing for position, the lines he was taking

Pro Racer · 31 May 2009, 09:58 (Ref:2472539)

i agree there but Dumbrell did it all day he did it after his first stop, can't remember who he held up but it was a train of about 3 cars nose to tail.

Buckshot · 31 May 2009, 10:08 (Ref:2472547)

Having a go at Paul Dumbrell for doing something stupid is like having a go at someone for breathing. He can't help what he is.

I thought there were some even worse examples of lapped cars not getting out of the way when Ingall and Tander were fighting it out during the closing laps Saturday.

I don't think Symmons Plains suits the 2 compulsory pit stop format as people on different strategies were tripping over eachother all weekend.

marcus · 31 May 2009, 10:08 (Ref:2472550)

it was a constant problem all weekend , lapped cars need to move out of the way , I would have punted somebofy for sure

DJJ · 31 May 2009, 10:35 (Ref:2472563)

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DJJ · 31 May 2009, 10:36 (Ref:2472566)

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Originally Posted by Buckshot

Having a go at Paul Dumbrell for doing something stupid is like having a go at someone for breathing. He can't help what he is.

I thought there were some even worse examples of lapped cars not getting out of the way when Ingall and Tander were fighting it out during the closing laps Saturday.

I don't think Symmons Plains suits the 2 compulsory pit stop format as people on different strategies were tripping over eachother all weekend.

It helped Will get 2nd. Ruined a good race to the end.

peckstar · 31 May 2009, 10:43 (Ref:2472569)

i really hope it was just stupidity and not some plan to save Will.

think maybe its a rule they need to fix up too.

In Nascar that send the lapped cars to the back of the field in late race restarts, it creates an exciting race, but is it artificial

DJJ · 31 May 2009, 11:12 (Ref:2472587)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

i really hope it was just stupidity and not some plan to save Will.

think maybe its a rule they need to fix up too.

In Nascar that send the lapped cars to the back of the field in late race restarts, it creates an exciting race, but is it artificial

It was obvious.

Rombles1 · 31 May 2009, 11:41 (Ref:2472612)

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Originally Posted by Buckshot

....I thought there were some even worse examples of lapped cars not getting out of the way when Ingall and Tander were fighting it out during the closing laps Saturday.
.....

I was discussing this with a friend who suggested that Tander may have helped that perception by looking for spots to overtake where he knew it would be hard for Ingall to follow. Not inconcievable. Everyone knows that SP is a short track, and that the leaders are likely to come across traffic. Remember Tander had to get past the backmarkers as well - why should they just move over to let Ingall past once Tander goes? At least it is a track where is passing IS possible.... imagine trying to do that at Surfers?

Not sure if this is a separate argument, but what would people think of having a "Lucky Dog" like in NASCAR, (mentioned by peckstar) - ie first car not on the lead lap gets it back when there is a safety car?

peckstar · 31 May 2009, 11:47 (Ref:2472617)

actually rombles thats not quite what i meant (but i am a fan in some ways of the lucky dog)

i was suggesting that if they have a restart within "X" laps of the end they shoudl move all the lapped cars to the back of the field

Pro Racer · 31 May 2009, 12:03 (Ref:2472633)

i like that, then the front runners are clear to go at it hammer and tongs.

STEALTHY · 31 May 2009, 17:27 (Ref:2472790)

Why not unlap them? Think thats what F1 do (not that i pay much attention to F1 this year)

thunderbolt · 31 May 2009, 23:46 (Ref:2473013)

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/conten...rst_v8_podium/

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Dumbrell was a lap down and not racing for position. Walkinshaw Performance runs both Autobarn Racing and Toll HRT. However, Coulthard wouldn’t be drawn on any conspiracy theories, simply saying he was happy to be on the podium.

2+1+1=cheat

Axeman444 · 1 Jun 2009, 02:35 (Ref:2473073)

good on WSR, Mr Coulthard and Mr Cruikshank to not blow up a stink and take the 3rd place gracefully, although i certainly agree there would have been team orders over the airwaves, interesting Mr Skaife and Mr Crompton didn't highlight it in the telecast.

WSR are certainly deserved of being my 2nd Fav team behind DJR...

Rick · 1 Jun 2009, 02:57 (Ref:2473078)

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Originally Posted by Rombles1

why should they just move over to let Ingall past once Tander goes?

because they are a lap down and there SHOULD be blue flags waving furiously - get out of the ******* way and stop ruining races. Absolutely pathetic driving standards all weekend.

As for Dumbrell - either he was happy making a goose of himself, or happy to be told to make a goose of himself. Either way ....

STEALTHY · 1 Jun 2009, 03:04 (Ref:2473081)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

good on WSR, Mr Coulthard and Mr Cruikshank to not blow up a stink and take the 3rd place gracefully, although i certainly agree there would have been team orders over the airwaves, interesting Mr Skaife and Mr Crompton didn't highlight it in the telecast.

WSR are certainly deserved of being my 2nd Fav team behind DJR...

Your really giving Dumbrell alot of credit there. I personally just thought it was him doing his normal driving routine, i'm sure the same would have happened if it was WD behind.

Just Do It! · 1 Jun 2009, 03:40 (Ref:2473091)

Maybe the oversight by the commentary team could be that one of them has a relationship doing rides in PR2 and the other is a brand ambassador?

Dumbrell's driving was pretty poor, especially when he blatantly looked to be holding up the non-factory driver in Ingall. If Ingall gave Murph a "middle one" salute earlier in the weekend, he must have near-on wanted to clobber Dumbrell!!

deeks6 · 1 Jun 2009, 04:23 (Ref:2473103)

I'd be the first one to go for the conspiracy theory regarding Walkinshoddy dirty tactics however ... it is Dumb-Bell we are talking about here! What has changed?

Evidently, he asked his engineer "What are these silvery things on the side of the car and above my head?"

Axeman444 · 1 Jun 2009, 06:36 (Ref:2473140)

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Originally Posted by Just Do It!

Maybe the oversight by the commentary team could be that one of them has a relationship doing rides in PR2 and the other is a brand ambassador?

that was my implication

fomoco · 1 Jun 2009, 08:02 (Ref:2473172)

Dumbell was thinking of hey Dave thexton did this, so can I, but he forgot one thing, Dave was a decent bloke, no a goose.

Note to Dumbell look to right, look to the left, look to right again, then if the road is clear of traffic ..................................

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