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Old 17 Aug 2010, 11:59 (Ref:2745868)   #1
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Heidfeld's just become Hot Property for 2011
With the news of Heidfeld being confirmed as Pirelli's official test driver, he is surely going to become a highly sought after driver for next year giving the knowladge he will have aquired in the duration of his time with them.

Its good to see him back in a meaningful role, he's a hugely talented driver and very quick good for him.

Im heading to the bookies, Heidfeld back in F1 next season.
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Old 17 Aug 2010, 12:03 (Ref:2745869)   #2
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Heidfeld back in F1 next season.
Lets hope so. More deserving than the guy who ended up with the Merc #2 race seat.
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Old 17 Aug 2010, 12:12 (Ref:2745876)   #3
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My thoughts as well. It might give him a decent shot at the Renault #2 seat, as the team really did struggle with the move to Bridgestones in '07.

Incidentally, who did the Michelin development work in 2000?
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Old 17 Aug 2010, 12:19 (Ref:2745885)   #4
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Incidentally, who did the Michelin development work in 2000?
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Old 17 Aug 2010, 12:27 (Ref:2745890)   #5
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Together with the recent departure of Andy Soucek from Virgin who also didn't get to drive the car at all, I think we're beginning to see that this 'third driver' role is a complete waste of time and talent. If the testing rules remain the way they are now, I can't see any decent driver wanting to become a reserve driver and spend the year waiting around in case one of the others is incapacitated enough not to be able to race.
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Old 17 Aug 2010, 13:53 (Ref:2745942)   #6
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I just think they should do a couple of test days using only the team's 3rd drivers.

Also, who they getting in to replace Heidy?

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Old 17 Aug 2010, 14:49 (Ref:2745979)   #7
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I just think they should do a couple of test days using only the team's 3rd drivers.
That is certainly an option. I'd suggest a one day test a third in to the season at Silverstone (the old course), and two thirds in at Magny-Cours. Or maybe do it on Mondays after races. These tests would be subject to normal media coverage arrangements, not behind closed doors.

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The word is they aren't in a burning hurry to find a replacement.
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Old 17 Aug 2010, 15:41 (Ref:2746013)   #8
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Friday testing gotta come back.
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Old 17 Aug 2010, 15:45 (Ref:2746017)   #9
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The question is if it would be more cost effective to run third cars or have actual tests, relative to the potential revenues of actual tests (flogging tickets).
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Old 17 Aug 2010, 16:21 (Ref:2746056)   #10
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I'd certainly like the see them run some tests at circuits they don't use. Can you imagine the turn out for some of them? Just look at the turn outs for some of the recent demos.

I can understand they arn't in an immediate hurry to resign someone to the 3rd driver slot (Mercedes), but what happens if one of them picks up an injury? They'll need someone in straight away to hop in to that seat.

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Old 17 Aug 2010, 16:30 (Ref:2746064)   #11
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Also, anyone rekon they can get their hands on some footage/pics from today?

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Perhaps he'll replace a certain German who can't get to grips with the current tires at all?
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Old 17 Aug 2010, 19:40 (Ref:2746202)   #13
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Also, anyone rekon they can get their hands on some footage/pics from today?

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Pictures of an all-white Toyota TF109 can be found here.

Anyone any idea who will be Mercedes' third driver as from Spa?
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Old 17 Aug 2010, 20:39 (Ref:2746244)   #14
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My Guess, Anthony Davidson.
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*d'oh!*. Especially as he has done simulator work for them. With the pictures from the test, is there any chance that they could have found some bigger Pirelli stickers to slap on the car?
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Heidfeld's also one of the most reliable drivers around. Does he currently have the longest streak for the most race starts with out retiring?
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Heidfeld's also one of the most reliable drivers around. Does he currently have the longest streak for the most race starts with out retiring?
I think so, although that statistic isn't always so useful - while mechanical sympathy is a part of it, some cars are just too unreliable.
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Heidfeld's also one of the most reliable drivers around. Does he currently have the longest streak for the most race starts with out retiring?
Yes..... by a substantial margin. Also that was only curtailed thanks to a Sutil brainfade at Singapore where he did a spin turn into the approaching Heidfeld.

For the record, the most consecutive classified finishes stat read as follows....

1. Nick HEIDFELD France 2007 - Italy 2009 - 41 races
2. Nico ROSBERG Canada 2008 - Japan 2009 - 27
3. Michael SCHUMACHER Hungary 2001 - Malaysia 2003 - 24
4. Rubens BARRICHELLO Spain 2005 - Britain 2006 - 23
5. Fernando ALONSO France 2005 - Germany 2006 - 22
6. Jenson BUTTON Germany 2008 - Europe 2009 - 20
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Pictures of an all-white Toyota TF109 can be found here.

Anyone any idea who will be Mercedes' third driver as from Spa?
Those are really interesting pictures. I wonder what those "gills" at the bottom of the rear wing endplates does .... generate a wake of turbulent air perhaps? I wonder how many teams spend development resources on those kind of devices
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Yes..... by a substantial margin. Also that was only curtailed thanks to a Sutil brainfade at Singapore where he did a spin turn into the approaching Heidfeld.

For the record, the most consecutive classified finishes stat read as follows....

1. Nick HEIDFELD France 2007 - Italy 2009 - 41 races
2. Nico ROSBERG Canada 2008 - Japan 2009 - 27
3. Michael SCHUMACHER Hungary 2001 - Malaysia 2003 - 24
4. Rubens BARRICHELLO Spain 2005 - Britain 2006 - 23
5. Fernando ALONSO France 2005 - Germany 2006 - 22
6. Jenson BUTTON Germany 2008 - Europe 2009 - 20
Just goes to show you how reliable the cars are these days. Imagine figures like those in the 1980s.
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Just noticed, I think that's the 2010 rear wing, is it not?

I was about to ask what the benefits of running that would be, but I suppose a '10 spec rear wing is more accurate than an '09 spec wing. Interesting that no other teams have used such a wing, though.

Wonder if it'll be used next year?

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Of course its the 10 spec wing.
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It's the 2009-spec rear wing, as you can see from the pic on this link (taken from German GP 2009): http://www.f1network.net/main/s176/st151185.htm
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Of course its the 10 spec wing.
Why the sarcasm? It's the 2009 spec car.

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And thanks for the link, Barbazza. I just recall the 2010 car having a perhaps more extreme version of those rear wing end plate slits.
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