Tony Cochrane retires as Chairman

[formerf1champ]

Why do you discount digital TV, nearly the whole country has it now, why do you discount live coverage of every race on saturday and sunday

I don't discount it. However, it's the reason why V8s get live coverage at all in Melbourne. Not because it's established itself higher up the Australian Sport ladder, as a result of Cochrane's "good work". C7 had the rights to both ATCC/V8 and the footy now and before 96. Yet it's still the same scheduling in Melbourne, footy first, ATCC/V8 before midnight. In 15 years nothing has changed, except digital tv technology.

Beneficial to the 16,000 people now employed in motorsport in Australia (that was TC stat, i cant reference anything else, but at any point i can easily support 1000)

I don't have a significant opinion on this. 1000 people may be worth applauding or deriding.

If your book is so good, prehaps you can tell us the average amount of car competiin in the ATCC in 96 before he took over, start with PI

I don't have a book for the 96 season. However, I wikied it. Accounting for the fact it's incorrect and my memory of the 96 season, the average field would've been just under 20 starters, maybe?

Even if it was that. Ironically, it was one of the better seasons for the ATCC/V8s have ever had for genuine mainstream publicity. All thanks to wonderkid Craig Lowndes destroying everyone in his first season of full-time racing. Fans went ******* nuts that year, Craig's popularity still hasn't worn off, despite his complacency. It's much better than bs Cochrane publicity, which is flaky and fleeting. In one ear and out the other. It's also expensive publicity, what Cochrane gets.

How did he stuff porche cup, is formula ford his fault and does it really matter,
Funnily enough there are now two people competiing at the top level of open wheelers, there were none when he started, we now have a driver competiting in NASCAR as well, there are two aussies competing in Indycar, clearly there is a better path to the top now, than when he started. your theory would blame that on TC

National level classes have increased since he took over, they are just different

I'm not so committed to my initail quote to this response. I didn't think eduardo1 made a good point.

He's a massive flog.

certainly an intelligent observation

I would've said perceptive and profound, but you put it succinctly.

[cavvy]

I'm no fan of TC BUT I acknowledge what he has done & he has turned V8s into a multi $mil category challenging for international status
& made a big dollar for all of those who went along for the ride.

No other motorsport category benefitted, nor did they play an ongoing role in adding value to the product TC promoted.

The NRL are playing keep up with the AFL, this bloke would take it to the AFL in a way Gallop never could.

[eduardo1]

You really have had a good crack at miscontruing, or completely ignoring my points. So I'll clarify them for you.

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

So, for one city/state, he made a little difference. The same thing happens now, except there's now digital channels available. Nothing to do with him.

Err, no, that's one example of the improvement from his very first TV deal from C7 to C10. Each subsequent deal has improved the coverage in some way or another. And rarely is V8SC on 7mate - so it's the opposite - the digital channels have had little to do with improved coverage.

Beneficial to only a dozen, 2 dozen people. Those "professional" drivers are also barely "professional".

Beneficial to anyone who likes watching racing actually. You now have near-full grid of professionals racing at a much higher level as opposed to half a dozen pros and, maybe a dozen privateers at each round. This has led to closer, better quality racing throughout the field than 15 years ago.

I thought this was bs when I read it. So I looked up some of my books (Aus motor racing year). From 92 to 96, the smallest grid for Wanneroo was 16 in 92, which was the only time it was that low. Fair enough with it being the last year of GpA. 11 turned up for 91. With 11 starters, Wanneroo wasn't alone, 11 turned up to Mallala. The biggest field for the 91 season was 15. So, you're kind of making up "facts". Nothing to credit him here.

So you quoted the very 'fact' that I was alluding to, and then say I'm making them up? Either way, it's irrelevant, as my point quite clearly was that these days spectators at every round, in every state are provided the same show, with the same number and quality of cars. This benefits every motorsport fan outside of the eastern seaboard.

I can pay this. I have no idea why something wasn't done before.


Far more expensive as well. I love seeing the destruction of fford, as a result of this "professionalism". Contributed to stuffing up the Porsche Cup, for the pile of poo that is the Carrera Cup.

Yes, it is more expensive. But it is more professional and in the main better run and organised. Whether the cost/improvement ratio is a positive or not is for others to decide.

He's a massive flog.

Yawn.

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by cavvy

The NRL are playing keep up with the AFL, this bloke would take it to the AFL in a way Gallop never could.

I think FFA and NRL are or have been better off with Gallop rather than Cochrane

[one five five]

Originally Posted by cavvy

The NRL are playing keep up with the AFL, this bloke would take it to the AFL in a way Gallop never could.

Gallop couldn't take it to the AFL because he spent almost all of his years in the top job at the NRL putting out fires, be it players off-field behaviour or salary car scandels

It was a shame that after the first trouble free year in a decade Gallop was pushed, he finally had the chance to try and make some headway.....

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by one five five

Gallop couldn't take it to the AFL because he spent almost all of his years in the top job at the NRL putting out fires, be it players off-field behaviour or salary car scandels

It was a shame that after the first trouble free year in a decade Gallop was pushed, he finally had the chance to try and make some headway.....

No argument from me.

Can see Coch0 doing big things at the NRL.

[Axeman444]

Originally Posted by peckstar

just some responses

i'm sorry, what??

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Mate are you kidding?

Are you suggesting that more Australians are racing overseas thanks to Tony Cochrane and V8SA?????? I would be keen to hear peoples thoughts on this but I would think we have now less Australians competing internationally?

And to suggest that Mark Webber, Will Power and Chris Atkinson are now racing in their relevant international categories due to the impact of TC and V8SA might be the most bemusing post I have ever seen in the forum.

Marcos Ambrose has definitely benefited from the Ford association from V8SA to NASCAR however he had been competing internationally prior to this.

Also more National categories isnt a positive thing or it hasnt been in Australia. The Quality over Quantity theory hasnt been implemented here, to our detriment.

+ Ryan Briscoe, Daniel Ricciardo, John Martin, Nick McBride to name a few.

So Mr Peckstar, because of Tony Cochrane these guys got international drives? As much as I admire what TC has done for the top level of the sport in Aust, that is way off campus.

Next you'll be claiming Courtney got his gig in Japanese GT, Will Davison got his F1 test, and Alan Jones won a F1 title courtesy of TC.

Can we do a Phar Lap and claim Richie Stanaway and Mitch Evans also?

[eduardo1]

I can't see Cochrane getting the job and, to be honest, I don't think he'd be very good at it.

NRL is so different to V8s and a lot of what made him good for V8s would make him bad for NRL - not to mention what he did wrong with V8s would be compounded in NRL.


Acting unilaterally - most progress was made when he was, in all senses, lord and master. He made decisions and followed through with them. In NRL, he would have to report to the ARLC and work through with them. He had enough trouble doing that with what was a fairly subservient V8 hierachy. He would struggle with the competing egos of John Grant and co who are also out to make their mark on the sport.

Combative mentality - His first reaction when either challenged or contradicted was to come out swinging. This caused a lot of issues and frictions. Journos from all publications received many heated phone calls from him arguing there was bias against the organisation and sport. This included against the specialist motorsport publications as well. Which feeds into the next point...

Thin-skinned - He reacted badly to any perceived criticism at a time when, other than Peter McKay, he got a very easy run in the media (both specialist and mainstream). Compare that to the grilling the NRL/AFL/FFA/ARU CEOs are exposed to day in day out. He'd come out swinging and put them offside. Which leads to the next point...

Controversy corner - The NRL CEO needs to put out fires - TC was more likely to light them. He loves the spotlight and too often made the story about him. Much of the controversy of the sport in its first decade was around things he'd said and done.

He's got a lot of skills, but most of those aren't needed in the NRL and he just isn't suited to that job.

[GTRMagic]

And the AFR ran another story today...

Originally Posted by AFR, Mon Sep 24 2012, p42 Sports Review, Supercars by John Stensholt & Ben Holgate

Cochrane jumps out of V8

Tony Cochrane's resignation on Friday from his role as executive chairman of V8 Supercars Australia came as a shock to many, including the broadcaster of the popular motor sport series, Seven Network.

The enthusiastic Cochrane had long been the corporate face of V8s, and was front and centre when private equity operator Archer Capital paid $180 million for a 60 percent stake in the sport in May last year

Cochrane came out of that deal well, keeping his chairman role and using some of his share of the sale proceeds of his former company Sports & Entertainment Ltd to buy a 5 per cent stake in the business (V8 team owners hold the remaining 35 per cent)

But in recent months sources say his relationship with Archer, which has 2 representatives on the V8 board in Andrew Gray and Brad Lancken, has not been as close.

"Word on the street was Archer and he were at odds over his style," one source said on Friday

Cochrane was long known, with a hint of irony, for his "crash or crash-through approach"

A V8 spokesman denied there was any friction between Cochrane and Archer, saying he was "tired" after 15 years and noted he would stay until the end of 2012, keeping his ownership stake in the sport and stay on as a consultant for at least another two years

Archer managing director Andrew Gray said: "We [are] passionate about the future of V8 Supercars and are thrilled that Tony has agreed to continue to advise and assist us in the execution of our growth plans"

And there have been plenty of other tributes for him. A Seven spokesman said "even though he always speaks his mind, we have always had an excellent relationship with him and his passion for the sport and the commitment he engenders are legendary"

Cochrane had previously been leading negotiations for a new broadcasting deal, for which he wanted up to $60 million annually, but he is believed to have been sidelined in recent months, with V8 chief executive David Malone and Archer representatives leading talks with the incumbent broadcaster Seven and other parties.

The new deal will kick in from the beginning of the 2013 season and V8 management is hopeful of an increase from the estimated $28 million Seven pays for free-to-air rights, the $2 million Fox Sports pays for pay-television rights and the $6 million Telstra pays for digital rights.

But as Nine Network is not interested and Ten Network is unlikely to bid close to the V8Supercars' asking price, the sport may have to settle for close to the value of the current deal

Meat. Bones. More.

[formerf1champ]

Err, no, that's one example of the improvement from his very first TV deal from C7 to C10. Each subsequent deal has improved the coverage in some way or another. And rarely is V8SC on 7mate - so it's the opposite - the digital channels have had little to do with improved coverage.

The improvement was inevitable. C10 needed something since the NBL was a failure as a leading competition to cover. A facilitator was needed for the transition, I can pay that, that he was there to do it.. C7 were complacent, the ATCC would've continued on through a probable trough and progressed thereafter.

peckstar and I were talking about live coverage in Melbourne. In Melbourne, if it weren't for digital channels, anyone interested would have to make do with an hour edited highlights just before midnight. The same thing as before (No, it is worse than before!!!), but with digital channels, there's an out. If TC had seriously progressed the series, this wouldn't have occurred. Don't forget, Netball used to have only an obligatory game shown on the ABC, then had four games live on 10. FOUR!!!

Beneficial to anyone who likes watching racing actually. You now have near-full grid of professionals racing at a much higher level as opposed to half a dozen pros and, maybe a dozen privateers at each round. This has led to closer, better quality racing throughout the field than 15 years ago.

You are very generous, using the term "professionals", Lee Holdsworth is no "professional", Caruso, Webb, Fiore, Patrizi etc. they're just journeymen. For all the impact they're going to have, they may as well be Bob Jones/Bob Pearson. Your interpretation of "higher level" "better quality racing" is also generous. How many laps are completed behind the safety car? Privateers ok, no try hard pretenders, nobody bit off more than they could chew, it was fine. They filled a role, just like 2/3 of the supposed "professionals".

So you quoted the very 'fact' that I was alluding to, and then say I'm making them up? Either way, it's irrelevant, as my point quite clearly was that these days spectators at every round, in every state are provided the same show, with the same number and quality of cars. This benefits every motorsport fan outside of the eastern seaboard

I didn't like the fact you referred to one year, without clarifying that it was only one year. This could then be interpreted as though it happened all the time. With Australia in recession and the end of Group A, it's fair enough that so few cars turned up to Wanneroo in 91. It was 11 more than what turned up in 2010...

Yes, it is more expensive. But it is more professional and in the main better run and organised. Whether the cost/improvement ratio is a positive or not is for others to decide.

fford has deteriorated as a result, that's not a good thing. Carrera Cup failed, and wil fail again. Mini was ****. Brutes has been successful. But Brutes shows how dumb people are and the catergory is , trying model itself on V8SC (indeed, if it is). Imagine forking out all that cash to compete in that class, for what is essentially a glorified HQ series?

[mspence]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

And the AFR ran another story today...





Meat. Bones. More.

The same or a marginal increase in TV money - to teams who will have to take a smaller share anyway since the great selloff - is going to hit some teams pretty hard....

[Falcadore]

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

If the SA government hadn't got the GP, then the VIC government bought the conctract to host the race in Melbourne, Cochrane would never have got the idea to take advantage of a diused street track. These "events" aren't really "big events" the whole country cares about. At the same time, Bathurst has been diminished.

Because Monaco, Long Beach et al, could never have provided an idea.

[eduardo1]

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

The improvement was inevitable. C10 needed something since the NBL was a failure as a leading competition to cover. A facilitator was needed for the transition, I can pay that, that he was there to do it.. C7 were complacent, the ATCC would've continued on through a probable trough and progressed thereafter.

peckstar and I were talking about live coverage in Melbourne. In Melbourne, if it weren't for digital channels, anyone interested would have to make do with an hour edited highlights just before midnight. The same thing as before (No, it is worse than before!!!), but with digital channels, there's an out. If TC had seriously progressed the series, this wouldn't have occurred. Don't forget, Netball used to have only an obligatory game shown on the ABC, then had four games live on 10. FOUR!!!

You are very generous, using the term "professionals", Lee Holdsworth is no "professional", Caruso, Webb, Fiore, Patrizi etc. they're just journeymen. For all the impact they're going to have, they may as well be Bob Jones/Bob Pearson. Your interpretation of "higher level" "better quality racing" is also generous. How many laps are completed behind the safety car? Privateers ok, no try hard pretenders, nobody bit off more than they could chew, it was fine. They filled a role, just like 2/3 of the supposed "professionals".

I didn't like the fact you referred to one year, without clarifying that it was only one year. This could then be interpreted as though it happened all the time. With Australia in recession and the end of Group A, it's fair enough that so few cars turned up to Wanneroo in 91. It was 11 more than what turned up in 2010...

fford has deteriorated as a result, that's not a good thing. Carrera Cup failed, and wil fail again. Mini was ****. Brutes has been successful. But Brutes shows how dumb people are and the catergory is , trying model itself on V8SC (indeed, if it is). Imagine forking out all that cash to compete in that class, for what is essentially a glorified HQ series?

Nothing you've said disputes any of the facts I've put forward. You've put a negative interpretation on some of them. That's fine.

The subjective points - agree to disagree.

But to suggest Cochrane has either added nothing or his only achievements were being the right place at the right time (your first point above) is not based in the reality of where it was to where it is now.

[rik]

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

In Melbourne, if it weren't for digital channels, anyone interested would have to make do with an hour edited highlights just before midnight. The same thing as before (No, it is worse than before!!!), but with digital channels, there's an out.

That's not a fair assumption... If there were no digital channels other options would be in play. Such as previous practises of holding races before the delayed AFL matches. Or selling the rights to another channel which offered better coverage, such as the Ten days.

You are very generous, using the term "professionals", Lee Holdsworth is no "professional", Caruso, Webb, Fiore, Patrizi etc. they're just journeymen.

Pretty harsh to say Holdsworth and Caruso are not "professional". ie. they both are paid a real wage for their efforts and don't rely on other jobs to survive.

[formerf1champ]

Originally Posted by eduardo1

Nothing you've said disputes any of the facts I've put forward. You've put a negative interpretation on some of them. That's fine.

Do you acknowledge you put a negative interpretation on the pre-Cochrane ATCC?

Originally Posted by eduardo1

But to suggest Cochrane has either added nothing or his only achievements were being the right place at the right time (your first point above) is not based in the reality of where it was to where it is now.

I agree he's added a lot. It's just that a low percentage of that is of any substance.

Originally Posted by rik

That's not a fair assumption... If there were no digital channels other options would be in play. Such as previous practises of holding races before the delayed AFL matches. Or selling the rights to another channel which offered better coverage, such as the Ten days.

I agree, but there's nothing mind blowing TC has done in this regard. The ATCC could've evolved into that anyway.

Originally Posted by rik

Pretty harsh to say Holdsworth and Caruso are not "professional". ie. they both are paid a real wage for their efforts and don't rely on other jobs to survive.

Just because you get paid a real wage and have more spare time doesn't mean you're a professional driver. Holdsworth is a plodder, journeyman. He has a miserable record. Did he win anything of significance pror to competing in V8s? Maybe he punches above his weight sometimes, but he is not a driver of note. Could he even win a current state title? Garry Rogers couldn't wait to get rid of Whincup, but keeps Holdsworth for 7 years! He's lived a charmed life.


As far as Carusoi is concerned, his record was good, prior to joing V8s. But my impression of him, is that he's too soft for high level motorsport. Sure, he can beat up lesser drivers in lesser comps, but he doesn't have that "oomph" the real good drivers have. I can't believe it's been 3 years since he found himself in a position to win (and win) one of the Hidden Valley races. He hasn't progressed since then.

[Umai Naa]

Those GRM cars aren't exactly rocketships.

[eduardo1]

Ok, last round on this.

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

Do you acknowledge you put a negative interpretation on the pre-Cochrane ATCC?

No, because I didn't. Highlighting improvements made since is not necessarily negative of what it was. On the track it was always pretty good. Off-track was where it was mostly lacking in professionalism and that was where V8s have, over time, with some mis-steps, improved things considerably. Not perfect, but definitely better.

I agree he's added a lot. It's just that a low percentage of that is of any substance.

I agree, but there's nothing mind blowing TC has done in this regard. The ATCC could've evolved into that anyway.

Could've, but we don't know if it would've. We do know that it did under his watch. I reckon Queensland would've won 7 straight Origins with anyone as their coach - but that doesn't mean Mal Meninga shouldn't get the credit for actually doing it.

Just because you get paid a real wage and have more spare time doesn't mean you're a professional driver. Holdsworth is a plodder, journeyman. He has a miserable record. Did he win anything of significance pror to competing in V8s? Maybe he punches above his weight sometimes, but he is not a driver of note. Could he even win a current state title? Garry Rogers couldn't wait to get rid of Whincup, but keeps Holdsworth for 7 years! He's lived a charmed life.


As far as Carusoi is concerned, his record was good, prior to joing V8s. But my impression of him, is that he's too soft for high level motorsport. Sure, he can beat up lesser drivers in lesser comps, but he doesn't have that "oomph" the real good drivers have. I can't believe it's been 3 years since he found himself in a position to win (and win) one of the Hidden Valley races. He hasn't progressed since then.

[formerf1champ]

No, because I didn't. Highlighting improvements made since is not necessarily negative of what it was. On the track it was always pretty good. Off-track was where it was mostly lacking in professionalism and that was where V8s have, over time, with some mis-steps, improved things considerably. Not perfect, but definitely better.

Yes you did. The supposed "professionalism" oof track would've occurred naturally, as competitors would've become more ambitious or more competitors would've joined, as a result of it being less expensive. All that's happened now, is that it's become way more expensive to finish outside the top 10. I agree that he's been a facilitator, and an overbearing, **** one at that.

Could've, but we don't know if it would've. We do know that it did under his watch. I reckon Queensland would've won 7 straight Origins with anyone as their coach - but that doesn't mean Mal Meninga shouldn't get the credit for actually doing it

I can see this point of view.

On a separate point, not aimed only at eduardo1, But you just know, for all the supposed improvements Cochrane has made, next year, he would not watch a car race, including V8sc, because he thinks car racing is entertaining or great. You just know he wouldn't, therefore his improvement are a charade.

[eduardo1]

I know I said before was the last, but what hey...

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

Yes you did. The supposed "professionalism" oof track would've occurred naturally, as competitors would've become more ambitious or more competitors would've joined, as a result of it being less expensive. All that's happened now, is that it's become way more expensive to finish outside the top 10. I agree that he's been a facilitator, and an overbearing, **** one at that.

If you mean by happening naturally by TEGA deciding to align itself with an expert in the field of sports marketing and management to make it happen then yes.

If you mean happening naturally with CAMS still running the competition - no, it would not have.

On a separate point, not aimed only at eduardo1, But you just know, for all the supposed improvements Cochrane has made, next year, he would not watch a car race, including V8sc, because he thinks car racing is entertaining or great. You just know he wouldn't, therefore his improvement are a charade.

The agency I work for has, as its client a major cereal brand. We're working on a project which so far I've worked close to 150 hours in the past 2 weeks. I think it's going to be an awesome end result and I'm passionate about it and putting everything I've got into it to make it the best it can be.

I don't eat cereal of any type.

Does this make my efforts (and achievements) a charade as well?

Or does it mean we're both doing the very best we can by the company's we work for?

[formerf1champ]

Does this make my efforts (and achievements) a charade as well?

Yes.

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

On a separate point, not aimed only at eduardo1, But you just know, for all the supposed improvements Cochrane has made, next year, he would not watch a car race, including V8sc, because he thinks car racing is entertaining or great. You just know he wouldn't, therefore his improvement are a charade.

May surprise many to know that TC has for a very long time been a motor racing fan - it was one of the driving factors that got him involved in the first place - he saw great potential in a sport that he liked.

He's likely to still be watching and attending races, not just V8SC either.

[formerf1champ]

Originally Posted by Tourer

May surprise many to know that TC has for a very long time been a motor racing fan - it was one of the driving factors that got him involved in the first place - he saw great potential in a sport that he liked.

He's likely to still be watching and attending races, not just V8SC either.

May surprise? It would be a huge surprise! So big, I can't take you post on face value. I'm not saying you're wrong, but i would be intrigued to know what you know. After 15 years, it certainly hasn't been obvious, it has not beeen evident at all. He may like the type of work he does, he may like himself a lot. But motor racing? Nope.

I can't see how a guy who likes motor racing, by nature, can ****can Super touring like he did, mess around with Bathurst/sandown like he has, take V8 races away from legit race tracks ( tracks with good facilities as well), a guy who, in his own way, discourages drivers from competing in the NZ enduros, "likes" motor racing. When I say "like", I mean a genuine passion, not an arms length/passing interest, like he has.

Attending the corporate box at the GP doesn't count as "watching and attending races, not just V8SC either" either.

[D.R.T.]

Add to that his efforts at tearing down the WRC event in Perth.

Yeah he loves motorsport

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

May surprise? It would be a huge surprise! So big, I can't take you post on face value. I'm not saying you're wrong, but i would be intrigued to know what you know. After 15 years, it certainly hasn't been obvious, it has not beeen evident at all. He may like the type of work he does, he may like himself a lot. But motor racing? Nope.

I can't see how a guy who likes motor racing, by nature, can ****can Super touring like he did, mess around with Bathurst/sandown like he has, take V8 races away from legit race tracks ( tracks with good facilities as well), a guy who, in his own way, discourages drivers from competing in the NZ enduros, "likes" motor racing. When I say "like", I mean a genuine passion, not an arms length/passing interest, like he has.

Attending the corporate box at the GP doesn't count as "watching and attending races, not just V8SC either" either.

How do I know? I've had a lot of dealings and conversations over the years direct with TC, and whilst I don't claim to know him like a family member, like many others who work in the paddock, get to see a very different person at times from the public persona.

Bear in mind that Super Touring were also ****canning the V8s at the time - regardless of who started what, so it cuts both ways - and also that he has had a professional sports business to run so it's been necessary to make changes at times - including changing race tracks etc.

Do I agree with everything he's said and done? No, I don't but the point of my post is that he has a genuine enthusiasm for motor sport. Like all of us there are some aspects of the sport that he likes more than others but his enthusiasm is real.

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Add to that his efforts at tearing down the WRC event in Perth.

Yeah he loves motorsport

I don't recall him having anything to do with tearing down the WRC event in Perth but happy to be proved wrong - what he did do though was compare the investment & return in a WRC that the state govt had already announced they weren't going to continue with to a possible V8 street race or improvement spend at Barbagallo or the new circuit sth of Perth that was being planned at the time.

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by Tourer

I don't recall him having anything to do with tearing down the WRC event in Perth but happy to be proved wrong - what he did do though was compare the investment & return in a WRC that the state govt had already announced they weren't going to continue with to a possible V8 street race or improvement spend at Barbagallo or the new circuit sth of Perth that was being planned at the time.

You dont recall TC carrying on like a two year old when the street race idea got binned and his response was to state publicly that he would stage a race elsewhere on the same date in order to take away the channel 10 coverage on Sunday afternoon.