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View Poll Results: Which driver is going to win the VASC Driver’s Championship In 2018?
#1 Jamie Whincup RBHRT Holden 6 14.63%
#2 Scott Pye WAU Holden 1 2.44%
#5 Mark Winterbottom Tickford Ford 0 0%
#6 Cameron Waters Tickford Ford 1 2.44%
#7 Andre Heimgartner NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#8 Nick Percat BJR Holden 0 0%
#9 David Reynolds Erebus Holden 1 2.44%
#12 Fabian Coulthard DJRTP Ford 1 2.44%
#14 Tim Slade BJR Holden 0 0%
#15 Rick Kelly NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#17 Scott McLaughlin DJRTP Ford 22 53.66%
#18 Lee Holdsworth Team18 Holden 0 0%
#19 Jack Le Brocq Tekno Holden 0 0%
#21 Tim Blanchard TBR Holden 0 0%
#23 Michael Caruso NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#25 James Courtney WAU Holden 1 2.44%
#33 Garth Tander GRM Holden 0 0%
#34 James Golding GRM Holden 0 0%
#35 Todd Hazelwood MSR Ford 0 0%
#55 Chaz Mostert Tickford Ford 4 9.76%
#56 Richie Stanaway Tickford Ford 1 2.44%
#78 Simona de Silvestro NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#97 Shane van Gisbergen RBHRT Holden 2 4.88%
#99 Anton de Pasquale Erebus Holden 1 2.44%
#230 Will Davison 23RED Ford 0 0%
#888 Craig Lowndes ALR Holden 0 0%
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Old 28 Mar 2017, 21:55 (Ref:3722278)   #151
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That's exactly right! When I read it I couldn't help but think exactly what you said.
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Old 28 Mar 2017, 22:01 (Ref:3722283)   #152
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I bow to Jamie's experience and knowledge, but I'm lost in his reasoning on this.
It is a special occasion, already a massive event in front of the best collection of the big teams corporate guests you're ever likely to see, and conducted in front of the F1 teams, so I can see the argument that it doesn't NEED to be a made a points round.
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That's exactly right! When I read it I couldn't help but think exactly what you said.
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It is a special occasion, already a massive event in front of the best collection of the big teams corporate guests you're ever likely to see, and conducted in front of the F1 teams, so I can see the argument that it doesn't NEED to be a made a points round.
Take away the F1 teams bit, so is Bathurst. And Clipsal. I'm just not sure that bending cars for zero points makes sense no matter what the exposure.
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Take away the F1 teams bit, so is Bathurst. And Clipsal. I'm just not sure that bending cars for zero points makes sense no matter what the exposure.
At least the host broadcasters are common, even if the commentary team on FTA weren't the usual suspects..
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I'm beginning to get worried about these next gen regulations and how supercars intends to police it. Currently it appears that only one engine package per brand will be homologated and it'll basically be a first in best dress when it comes to who gets the gomologation. We know T8 have a V6T in development in the states and for sure Penske will have Ilmor working on their ford variant. I wonder how other teams will fare with this and how it'll be kept fair. Who will you purchase the engines from? Who will offer track support for said engines? (Holden have given an answer but good luck the other Holden teams being happy with it) Many questions and really only 10 months to go.

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3 marques, 3 engine suppliers.

If you want parity, that's the easiest way to do it.
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For this particular sponsor (Red Bull) he fits the sponsors image better than Lowndes.
Like Caltex is probably a better fit for Lowndes than SVG.





So what you're saying is you've never forgiven him for leaving SBR / Ford???


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No I don't have an issue with the fact he isn't in a Ford, the issue I have is how he left SBR. The way he treated that was a joke, and all year it had been known that it was likely that SBR would be bought by Erebus. Shane didn't have to sign his contract with SBR when there was others looking at him. The way he then went about it later in the year saying I'm homesick, was a joke. Fair enough people can get homesick, but don't use it as an excuse to get into a better team. He never planed to sit at home going on what his career was doing, he would have essentially stopped racing at that time.

To then come back in 2013 with Tekno really did show he didn't want to be at SBR for one reason or another. He claims he thought the Merc was going to be a failure, but how did he know, none of us knew what was going to happen so that is not a good enough excuse. The idea that he didn't want to race for a girl, I don't know sounds stupid but it could have some truth, the public will never know what went on behind closed doors in that team.
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Get lost, you seem to be one of the deadest idiots who sit on the lounge and does nothing, and has no idea. The others may be negative critics but at least they have knowledge. I can stand talking to people like that, people like yourself are just fustrating
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mceci1, life is a funny thing-the old adage if it looks like sh#t, smells like sh#t, tastes like sh#t, it probably is sh#t.

SVG didn't like what I saw, or was told, promised so he told Betty to shove it.
At the end of the day he would have been running at back of the field, and not winning a title.

At the end of the day a race car driver has a small career window to win titles, and top up their cash for when they have to get a real job. I have been watching car racing whether it be Formula1, touring car racing or speedway racing for a long time. I have seen good drivers get talked into going to a team, only to find a dud car, no dollars and lot's of heartache.

Might be time to smell the roses as they say.

After SVG defected, and the world nearly came to and end, I noticed the sun still rises each morning.
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I'm with Whincup, right on the money. They should pull more events out of the "championship" as well.

Its a sad state of affairs if the only reason to go racing is to get points at the end of it.
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mceci1, life is a funny thing-the old adage if it looks like sh#t, smells like sh#t, tastes like sh#t, it probably is sh#t.

SVG didn't like what I saw, or was told, promised so he told Betty to shove it.
At the end of the day he would have been running at back of the field, and not winning a title.

At the end of the day a race car driver has a small career window to win titles, and top up their cash for when they have to get a real job. I have been watching car racing whether it be Formula1, touring car racing or speedway racing for a long time. I have seen good drivers get talked into going to a team, only to find a dud car, no dollars and lot's of heartache.

Might be time to smell the roses as they say.

After SVG defected, and the world nearly came to and end, I noticed the sun still rises each morning.
Well said Kingair.

The fact is that when SVG resigned with SBR he did not know that there was an impending change of car manufacture, when he and his dad Robert found out the full extent of the change, they felt betrayed and from that point on things when rapidly downhill.

With hindsight could they have handled it better? Yes for sure, but **** happens, and and its time for everybody to move on, to his credit even Ross Stone has made peace with SVG. Maybe Betty never will but thats her cross to bare.

Everybody needs to move on particularly some on the forum and thread. JMO.

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