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Old 4 Dec 2017, 20:48 (Ref:3785122)   #31
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do you think the circuit layouts encourage that kind of nonsense though? the clips i've seen from hong kong suggest it's more of an indoor kart track layout than a proper street circuit...
I think you're spot on there. I think another contributing factor is FE cars are built like tanks compared to other single seaters. You can take relatively large hits and carry on.

Kart track. Cars that can take abuse. It shouldn't be a surprise people driver stupidly.
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Old 4 Dec 2017, 23:05 (Ref:3785144)   #32
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There's rumours that the Sao Paulo race could be replaced by Punta del Este!
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do you think the circuit layouts encourage that kind of nonsense though? the clips i've seen from hong kong suggest it's more of an indoor kart track layout than a proper street circuit...
Yet we saw more overtaking than most international open wheeler races.
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Old 9 Dec 2017, 19:34 (Ref:3786038)   #34
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Montreal Formula E race cancelled by Mayor

Montreal’s Mayor has cancelled the double-header which was set to serve as this season’s Formula E finale over the $35 million cost to the host city.
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I don't understand how anyone could be pretending to be surprised. Everyone knew it wasn't going to continue as soon as the results of the Montreal municipal election became apparent back in early November. I wonder if Formula E has been making any effort to replace the Montreal race(s) on the schedule? Since the Toronto IndyCar race also occurs in July, I suppose it could make sense for Formula E to use most of the same layout (modified to shorten one or two of the straights) on the weekend before or after IndyCar, if it was possible to quickly find a corporate sponsor and make the other necessary arrangements.
Or, maybe they could consider this suggestion of using Downsview Airport?
http://tentenths.com/forum/showpost....7&postcount=21
While not as close to downtown Toronto, it does now have a new regional train (GO Transit) and subway station right there at the northwest end of the property, and presumably could provide better viewing locations than the street circuit, while likely not requiring as much annual set-up work after some initial repaving. The airfield is owned by Bombardier Aerospace, but perhaps they could be encouraged to allow it to be used for a Formula E event by the federal government, who recently provided the company with a large interest free loan.

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Old 19 Dec 2017, 20:24 (Ref:3788162)   #37
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Montreal spent a few million getting custom made concrete blocks. The entire Paris event only cost $5m. Montreal soaked up half of that making barriers. Of course it was cancelled - it was miss-managed so badly that someone should be sacked and potentially prosecuted for the decisions made.

As great as the Toronto circuit is, FE won't race there. They use these tiny little interesting tracks to be different and to hide the speed of the cars. It's very clever, but they'd look silly on track with IndyCar.
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...the Toronto circuit ... FE won't race there. They use these tiny little interesting tracks to be different and to hide the speed of the cars... they'd look silly on track with IndyCar.
Formula E used a shortened version of the Long Beach circuit in 2015 and 2016, two weeks before the IndyCar events, and similarly still use (as far as I know) a shortened version of the Monaco F1 circuit in alternate years. Looking at the Montreal F1 layout, I would guess a hypothetical Formula E track could have involved using most of the southern end of the F1 course including the present pit lane, along with some new link across the middle of the island somewhere in the general vicinity of the casino building. I don't know how expensive and practical that would have been, but in hindsight it might have been a better idea than the entirely new temporary street course.
I suppose Circuit ICAR is somewhat comparable to the Berlin Tempelhof Airport circuit used by Formula E, but being almost 40 km away from Montreal is probably not what Formula E wants.
The Formula E website now shows TBA where Montreal had been on the schedule. I have no idea if that means they may be hoping to quickly add another race to the schedule as a replacement.
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Old 21 Dec 2017, 17:46 (Ref:3788577)   #39
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Formula E used a shortened version of the Long Beach circuit in 2015 and 2016, two weeks before the IndyCar events, and similarly still use (as far as I know) a shortened version of the Monaco F1 circuit in alternate years. Looking at the Montreal F1 layout, I would guess a hypothetical Formula E track could have involved using most of the southern end of the F1 course including the present pit lane, along with some new link across the middle of the island somewhere in the general vicinity of the casino building. I don't know how expensive and practical that would have been, but in hindsight it might have been a better idea than the entirely new temporary street course.
I suppose Circuit ICAR is somewhat comparable to the Berlin Tempelhof Airport circuit used by Formula E, but being almost 40 km away from Montreal is probably not what Formula E wants.
The Formula E website now shows TBA where Montreal had been on the schedule. I have no idea if that means they may be hoping to quickly add another race to the schedule as a replacement.
http://www.fiaformulae.com/en/calendar
You're totally right, I missed those Long Beach and Monaco events. When you watch them now, the cars do look very silly on those circuits.

I believe FE was offered the use of the Montreal F1 circuit and turned it down.
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Formula E will no longer implement a minimum pitstop time during races this season.
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there isn’t a single scenario in which that’s a good idea.
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there isn’t a single scenario in which that’s a good idea.
Indeed. We saw cars crash entering the pitbox.
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Do they still have car swaps? If so, then this will end so so badly.
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Following the cancellation of the Montreal races, a possible schedule addition may be "a track in the UK", or expanding the existing Punte del Este and Berlin Tempelhof events to each have two races, according to Sam Smith of e-racing365.com .
http://e-racing365.com/formula-e/mar...sday-notebook/
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