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Old 23 Apr 2005, 09:08 (Ref:1284905)   #46
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I was there on the Friday practice sitting at Caltex Chase >>>and the PA definately announced Seton had just topped 300kmh,

i remember his headlights blazing, car looked awesome ,

think it was 96 and the EF or EL

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Old 23 Apr 2005, 09:11 (Ref:1284907)   #47
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I don't know how Seto could have gone any faster than 296 with a standard diff and a 7500rpm rev limit. The only variablwe is tyres (pre control tyres), if they had slightly higher sidewalls he may have got a few more kph but 308kph would require 18-inch wheels.
SETON did just top the 300K on the Friday(without a tow)all on his own!

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Old 23 Apr 2005, 09:38 (Ref:1284920)   #48
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Old 24 Apr 2005, 11:23 (Ref:1285570)   #49
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Despite this undeniably significant amd historical achievement, Seton would no doubt like the winner's trophy and the plaque in the footpath at Bathurst as well! Maybe this year. Go Seto!
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Old 25 Apr 2005, 02:20 (Ref:1286438)   #50
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Despite this undeniably significant amd historical achievement, Seton would no doubt like the winner's trophy and the plaque in the footpath at Bathurst as well! Maybe this year. Go Seto!
It is quite a shame that Seto has never won at the mount to be honest.
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Old 25 Apr 2005, 16:38 (Ref:1287018)   #51
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Would Jim's car be the one that Peter Sportelli built?? 'Camaroz'
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Sorry to take so long to get back. Been at Oran Park for the weekend.

The Dick Midgley Lumina that Jim drove at Bathurst was the dedicated 'Road Course' car for that season. I'm not sure where it came from but probably from one of Dick's West Coast teams.

This is the car that was sold to Graeme Smith (1) and was T-Boned at the AGP by Dumbrell and Howe.

The Sportelli built Tropic Coast Lumina ended up at Fastrack and is still doing good duty!!!

I still have the Walter Giles Lumina.
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Old 26 Apr 2005, 00:51 (Ref:1287491)   #52
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From memory i think the Midgley Lumina was the ex-Brad Jones car, they may have bought his other Lumina as well, to go along with the Pontiac Grand Prix they already had.
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Old 26 Apr 2005, 05:35 (Ref:1287566)   #53
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From memory i think the Midgley Lumina was the ex-Brad Jones car, they may have bought his other Lumina as well, to go along with the Pontiac Grand Prix they already had.
I checked some notes quickly and some old photos. The Lumina was first bought in from the US (NASCAR West Tour) to run as the Detroit Gasket car for an American driver Brad someone who trowled it coming out of 3 near the end of one of the night races - USA - AUS Challenge. It was then fixed by Midgleys crew (including Warwick deRose) to become a dedicated road course car for Jim.

This car was the fastest down Conrod (with a steel roof anyway).

Not sure what happened to Brad's Lumina (s) - did he have two? One was an ex-Jeff Gordon (Display?) car though I have a feeling that one of the Jones Luminas might have became a ride car for Kim Jane.

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Old 27 Apr 2005, 07:20 (Ref:1288257)   #54
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in 2004 Marcos Ambrose hit 302km/h. that has to be the fastest V8 supercar
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Old 28 Apr 2005, 03:37 (Ref:1289084)   #55
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Btw, as for the road registered Toranas hitting 300km/h in the Flying Fifth. I was there (manning driveways) in 86 (pre the chase) and I remember the ACT registered Torana A9X, which I think was double entered. Both drivers recorded 264Km/h, which is still mightily impressive!
I was walking to the old man last night, and he said the Stenhouse A9X went through the flying 200 metres at an average of 164mph, topping out at 172mph through the end of the speed trap.

That correlates with prn 31's recollection - so I believe him!

As far as I'm concerned, fighting a road going A9X at 270kmh plus would have taken a mountain more brave pills than a million dollar race prepped V8 Supercar at 302kmh!
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Old 28 Apr 2005, 04:21 (Ref:1289096)   #56
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Brendan are you sure?????That's the first I've heard, I thought it was impossible with the diff ratio they used last year...............
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It is impossible unless they cheated.

3.25 diff and 7500 is 296km/h and no more.

And that is also why i still question the Seton thing.

If they had the proper diff ratio and rev limit, it is not possible to go over 296km/h.
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Old 28 Apr 2005, 05:38 (Ref:1289113)   #58
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If they had the proper diff ratio and rev limit, it is not possible to go over 296km/h.
I have no expertise in this matter at all, but I wouldn't have thought that the diff ratio and rev limit would make this 296k's limit set like some unbreakable wall. A 1% expansion in tyre diameter possibly caused by centrifugal force and heat would put the car over 300, and a 1% error in the speedgun would see the car at 299.96k's (approximately, of course). I can think of a few other variables as well. Maybe I'm off track, and 296 is absolute top whack, no matter what.
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Old 28 Apr 2005, 06:07 (Ref:1289116)   #59
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But if the variable was there, then every year it would happen instead of them simply banging away at the rev limiter at 296!

Maybe Seton had access to a few extra revs somehow.
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The cars don't reach flat stick on Conrod anyway, terminal speed is determined by Forrest Elbow exit speed. Seton was clocked at 304 kmh in the Ford Credit EL by radar.
 
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