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Old 8 Oct 2017, 01:13 (Ref:3772795)   #61
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What about 2008 with Lewis? I think Massa being able to have one hand on the title with his Ferrari says something. The cars may not have had much between them, but I think the Ferrari was a slightly better car overall that year. I think the same can be said this year. In hot weather, the Ferrari is better than Mercedes. In cool weather they're not quite as fast. Vettel has had lots of failures and brain fades this season tbf. I think the Ferrari is a more consistent car in any condition. The Mercedes has some tire temp issues.
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Old 8 Oct 2017, 04:25 (Ref:3772863)   #62
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What about 2008 with Lewis? I think Massa being able to have one hand on the title with his Ferrari says something. The cars may not have had much between them, but I think the Ferrari was a slightly better car overall that year. I think the same can be said this year. In hot weather, the Ferrari is better than Mercedes. In cool weather they're not quite as fast. Vettel has had lots of failures and brain fades this season tbf. I think the Ferrari is a more consistent car in any condition. The Mercedes has some tire temp issues.
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Mercedes 12 poles: Hamilton 10; Bottas 2

Ferrari 4 poles: Vettel 3; Raikkonen 1
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Old 8 Oct 2017, 09:48 (Ref:3772940)   #63
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Fascinating that people are still trying to manufacture the Ferrari into the better car considering it is hopelessly behind in poles, wins and reliability.
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Old 8 Oct 2017, 10:50 (Ref:3772968)   #64
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And vettel's "moments of brain fade" being down to over-driving the car, perhaps?
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Old 8 Oct 2017, 12:08 (Ref:3772984)   #65
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Fascinating that people are still trying to manufacture the Ferrari into the better car considering it is hopelessly behind in poles, wins and reliability.
I think Ferraris recent form flatters the Mercedes.

There's no doubt the ferrari is consistanctly the faster race car and has a larger operating window on more th racks than the Mercedes. Reliability has let them down of late as did their implosion at Singapore. Take out a dodgy spark plug and crash in Singapore and the ferrari would probably have 2 more wins
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Better does not necessarily mean faster only. Better is the total som of a car‘s properties. This includes reliability. I would rather say Spa and Malaysia were off weekends for Mercedes (they never built their cars for the tight circuits like Hungary and Singapore) and races like Silverstone, Monza and today show their true form. So bringing up 2017 as a season where Hamilton would win a WDC in an inferior car is really quite ridiculous.
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Better does not necessarily mean faster only. Better is the total som of a car‘s properties. This includes reliability. I would rather say Spa and Malaysia were off weekends for Mercedes (they never built their cars for the tight circuits like Hungary and Singapore) and races like Silverstone, Monza and today show their true form. So bringing up 2017 as a season where Hamilton would win a WDC in an inferior car is really quite ridiculous.
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Better does not necessarily mean faster only. Better is the total som of a car‘s properties. This includes reliability. I would rather say Spa and Malaysia were off weekends for Mercedes (they never built their cars for the tight circuits like Hungary and Singapore) and races like Silverstone, Monza and today show their true form. So bringing up 2017 as a season where Hamilton would win a WDC in an inferior car is really quite ridiculous.
Agreed

I think this year more than any has shown how different teams have taken a different direction with their cars. Makes it interesting really!
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I think this year more than any has shown how different teams have taken a different direction with their cars. Makes it interesting really!


Now, if McLaren can git back on track with Renault, we could have a four way. Yahoo!
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Now, if McLaren can git back on track with Renault, we could have a four way. Yahoo!
Yup! Would love mclaren and Renault get back up there. Red bull have been the team of the second half of 2017, if they carry on that development rate 2018 could be a great season
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Old 10 Oct 2017, 04:24 (Ref:3773330)   #71
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Whatever Ferrari had to stop doing that was pushing the limits of the rules around Austria took them from more or less equal with Mercedes to being quite a bit behind.
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