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Old 26 May 2013, 01:32 (Ref:3253240)   #26
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Old 26 May 2013, 08:16 (Ref:3253291)   #27
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I still think that some comments by Sergei Zlobin are rather strange for sporting director. Or he just knows that our autosport editors are interested only in F1. "Our LMP2 chassis is not a Dallara". Maybe it's a shortcut in brains dating back to the times when he was racing himself?
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Old 26 May 2013, 16:28 (Ref:3253513)   #28
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Perhaps the LMP2 will be labeled as an Marussia. Marussia will be using (probably) Ferrari engines next year in F1. That's another connection with Ferrari then. Doesn't surprise me when Pecom will also be using Ferrari engines in their Oreca next year.
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Old 27 May 2013, 18:00 (Ref:3254113)   #29
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At the moment Zlobin denies any connection between SMP project and Marussia that has no Russian engineers or mechanics. But Marussia-Ferrari in the near future has some sense. And Mr.Fomenko some time ago has told about Marussia project in Le Mans. But all thought it would be a new road coupe.
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Old 28 May 2013, 07:57 (Ref:3254371)   #30
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Marussia road car in GTE?
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Old 28 May 2013, 08:38 (Ref:3254383)   #31
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Something of that sort. Usually Fomenko implements all the projects he's talking about though many of them seemed to be difficult to fulfil. And sometimes they are implemented in a strange way. So, maybe there would be a LMP car with SMP. Maybe a GTE Marussia. Maybe nothing at this time.
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Old 28 May 2013, 14:32 (Ref:3254526)   #32
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To homologate a GTE the need to build some road cars first. AFAIK, their projects never went further than rolling prototype stage. Pruduction, let alone in some serious numbers seems quite far-fetched.
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Old 28 May 2013, 19:53 (Ref:3254681)   #33
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Last I read the B2 was sold out. Thats 500 units. I dont keep up to date with them so it may have changed.
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Old 29 May 2013, 00:46 (Ref:3254790)   #34
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I think a LMP2 car would be far more competitive then a GTE Marussia given the depth of competitiveness in GTE these days. I like the oddball entries like a Marussia but it would be a waste of money that could be spent on the LMP2 car.

Great to hear of projects like these, especially if it brings the Ferrari guys closer to LMP..
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I think a LMP2 car would be far more competitive then a GTE Marussia given the depth of competitiveness in GTE these days. I like the oddball entries like a Marussia but it would be a waste of money that could be spent on the LMP2 car.

Great to hear of projects like these, especially if it brings the Ferrari guys closer to LMP..
Yeah I have to agree, in that you'd imagine the barrier to building a P2 and getting up to speed is less than getting a GTE sorted in that manufacturer domain. Obviously there's BoP but seems like there's more scope to build a P2. Hopefully with some of the Russian investment they might see it as a step up to P1 too which is even better.
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The B2 is a very light supercar. If it was allowed it would already be in good shape. Its street car weight is about 1100kg. Id rather a new GTE than another lmp2 that probably won't be unique but use an existing chassis.
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To say the truth Marussia B2 has nothing interesting from the engineering side. It's just a light-weight tubular frame coupe. While LMP2 project could help our F-Student engineers to step into the autosport - they have some knowledge of working with carbon (special equipment was bought for Marussia but after this firm has left Russia for Finland, or somewhere else, all was left at the factory in Moscow. But another firm is developing some projects and autosport could be the next step for them). Besides they even built their own F-Hybrid with supercapacitor that was made by Russian company. So, there's more sense in LMP project. Not mentioning, it's going to be a long-awaited Ferrari-engined prototype.
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A bit more info here via E-I.

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...nce-18532.html

Most significant thing is that they have hired Paolo Catone, the guy behind the design and development of the 908. That surely hints at them making their own prototype.

Their aim is to have 2 car in the ELMS next year and of course at Le Mans. Potentially a bit of back-tracking on the Ferrari engine in the article. Not sure really?
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If they bring a Ferrari engine in P2 that would be great. Ferrari won´t go for P1 because they put all the egs in F1, the only way Ferrari go for P1 is if Jim Glickenhaus provide (chassis, and money) and Ferrari lease the new 1.6 V6 Turbo engine.
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If they bring a Ferrari engine in P2 that would be great. Ferrari won´t go for P1 because they put all the egs in F1, the only way Ferrari go for P1 is if Jim Glickenhaus provide (chassis, and money) and Ferrari lease the new 1.6 V6 Turbo engine.
Jim and Ferrari don't really like each other anymore, I'm not so sure that a relationship would work either way.

Plus, for them to succeed in P1, it's going to have to be a fully fledged effort straight from the factory. No way Ferrari would enter P1 if they couldn't top Audi, Toyota etc
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GT2 engines are legal in LMP2? If the reply is yes Michellotto could provithe them easily.
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In theory, yes they are. Pecom tried to run a Ferrari V8 in their LMP2 car in 2011 I think, but they weren't able to because Michelotto was too busy building the GTE and GT3 cars for other customers.
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In theory, yes they are. Pecom tried to run a Ferrari V8 in their LMP2 car in 2011 I think, but they weren't able to because Michelotto was too busy building the GTE and GT3 cars for other customers.
In the past the GT2 engines was legal, but the ACO is changing the rules every 5 minutes, for that reason I didn´t knew if that was legal or not.

The only doubt is if that engine could fit the rule of 75000€ as maximun price. Anywais an LMP2 engine doesn't need the same HP as a GT2 so maybe a less sophisticated engine than a GT2 could be ok (GT3 one?)
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I've just thought. If Honda can test their F1 engine via HPD, then Ferrari could do it too, but, unfortunately, Russian project is LMP2 only. Other way it could bring a possibility to legally overcome F1 restrictions on testing.
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Yes, going from Jims posts on Ferrarichat, Ferrari doesnt really care for Glickenhaus's racing projects, there is some unofficial (moral) support from within the factory but the higher ups dont want anything to do with it which is unfortunate but well it hasnt stopped Jim from going and doing his thing with his money and time so even more kudos to him for persevering
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Interesting to see this project moving forward.

SMP will enter an Oreca-Nissan in the ELMS at Red Bull Ring to get some experience in the class. Good news.
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Fantastic news! SMP obviously has very deep pockets...
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There're some rumours about SMP Bank buying Sauber F1. I hope it's only rumours, because it could cut sports car program quite seriously.
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There're some rumours about SMP Bank buying Sauber F1. I hope it's only rumours, because it could cut sports car program quite seriously.
There are also rumours that SMP Bank is taking over the whole racing world...
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