Home Mobile Forum News Cookbook FaceBook Us T-Shirts etc.: Europe/Worldwide. eBay Motorsport Links Advertising Live Chat  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides MotorsportAds  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Single Seater Racing > Formula One


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 27 Mar 2017, 12:26 (Ref:3721853)   #1201
GT6
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
England
MAIDSTONE, KENT, ENGLAND
Posts: 7,588
GT6 is going for a new world record!GT6 is going for a new world record!GT6 is going for a new world record!GT6 is going for a new world record!GT6 is going for a new world record!GT6 is going for a new world record!GT6 is going for a new world record!
I remember watching motor racing when i was young, my parents had no interest in motor racing so would never have paid for it and if todays youngsters never see it then they will never get interested in it so potential fans are lost, not many people can afford to watch F1 at a circuit so television or on line streaming is the only option for them, if it becomes expensive they will go elsewhere. Greed from some executives harms the sport and in the modern world there are plenty of other sports only to willing to jump in and welcome fans. Free coverage to everyone not only draws in the fans it also safeguards the future fan base, look at Boxing once a mainstream sport in the UK and other countries with huge audiences on telly now it hardly gets a mention as it slowly dies as minority interest and it's death is almost entirely down to pay to view. If i have to pay to watch something it only happens if i have a strong interest, but that interest came from a time when it was free to watch todays new fans need to be tempted and without them all sports slowly suffer a gradual demise.
GT6 is offline  
Quote
Old 27 Mar 2017, 12:43 (Ref:3721859)   #1202
bjohnsonsmith
Race Official
Veteran
 
bjohnsonsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
United States
London, England
Posts: 14,823
bjohnsonsmith is going for a new world record!bjohnsonsmith is going for a new world record!bjohnsonsmith is going for a new world record!bjohnsonsmith is going for a new world record!bjohnsonsmith is going for a new world record!bjohnsonsmith is going for a new world record!bjohnsonsmith is going for a new world record!bjohnsonsmith is going for a new world record!
Quote:
Originally Posted by GT6 View Post
i disagree completely, the only reason major sponsors are involved is the coverage that they get in the markets they sell in so with falling audiences and also the narrowing of that audience to the point where only those paying high fees for it then the returns the sponsors will get will reduce the return on that investment. Yes there are sponsors who spend company money for there own reasons but they are small fry now days and will never bring in enough to run a top team. If F1 goes totally pay to view then IMHO it will slowly die
This is exactly what happened to IndyCar. Falling TV audiences and poor track attendance, meant the big sponsors who had formerly been associated with CART, ended up at NASCAR, or retained by the dominant teams, namely Ganassi and Penske.
bjohnsonsmith is offline  
__________________
"If you're not winning you're not trying."
Colin Chapman.
Quote
Old 27 Mar 2017, 12:46 (Ref:3721862)   #1203
Sodemo
Veteran
 
Sodemo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
United Kingdom
Solihull, West Mids, UK
Posts: 9,402
Sodemo should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridSodemo should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridSodemo should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
It happened with boxing. Virtually all boxing now is behind a paywall, however there doesn't appear to be the same kind of corporate sponsorship involved with that sport.
Sodemo is offline  
Quote
Old 31 Mar 2017, 07:30 (Ref:3722719)   #1204
chunder
Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
England
Stevenage
Posts: 7,685
chunder should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridchunder should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridchunder should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
The thing about boxing is, it is coming back to a certain extent, PPV is only really for the huge fights, the massive world title fights in Vegas.

You can still access boxing on terrestrial channels and bizarrely live on the radio which is a surprisingly good medium to listen to it in!!

But yes if you want to watch the big stuff live it has been behind paywalls for decades.

Reason? People are happy to pay for it. The Mayweather Pacquiou fight was being sold for over 100 dollars towards the end, so there was a desire and need.

We are cretins for doing things like that, but the fault is largely ours let's face it. if we didn't pay for it, it would die off and come back to terrestrial channels.
chunder is offline  
__________________
This used to be such a vibrant place. Unless you are Oz or like 24h races whats the point now?
Quote
Old 31 Mar 2017, 08:03 (Ref:3722727)   #1205
Akrapovic
Veteran
 
Akrapovic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Scotland
Posts: 4,305
Akrapovic is going for a new world record!Akrapovic is going for a new world record!Akrapovic is going for a new world record!Akrapovic is going for a new world record!Akrapovic is going for a new world record!Akrapovic is going for a new world record!Akrapovic is going for a new world record!Akrapovic is going for a new world record!
https://www.youtube.com/user/Formula1

6 minute highlight videos on YouTube, with a bunch of other content too. Now I don't follow F1 as much as I used to (largely due to PayTV), but this seems like a new approach does it not?

Having events on YouTube does massively increase exposure to younger people, because despite what us oldies think, the younger generations would rather watch YouTube than TV.
Akrapovic is offline  
Quote
Old 31 Mar 2017, 10:39 (Ref:3722758)   #1206
crmalcolm
Veteran
 
crmalcolm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Italy
Posts: 1,842
crmalcolm should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridcrmalcolm should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akrapovic View Post
https://www.youtube.com/user/Formula1

6 minute highlight videos on YouTube, with a bunch of other content too. Now I don't follow F1 as much as I used to (largely due to PayTV), but this seems like a new approach does it not?

Having events on YouTube does massively increase exposure to younger people, because despite what us oldies think, the younger generations would rather watch YouTube than TV.
Seems like a good way to generate a younger interest - where a full 2hr race may not appeal, but a short highlights package will.
In time, the interest may develop to a desire for the full length version, and lets face it, probably every incident can be covered in 6 minutes with no need to watch a procession.
crmalcolm is offline  
__________________
"Wasn't fair! I brake for animals, Lewis doesn't"
Quote
Old 31 Mar 2017, 13:29 (Ref:3722794)   #1207
S griffin
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,646
S griffin should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridS griffin should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridS griffin should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridS griffin should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
I agree too, nice to see they're starting to go where Bernie refused into social media and getting short clips, which should hopefully get more fans into the sport
S griffin is offline  
__________________
He who dares wins!
He who hesitates is lost!
Quote
Old 14 May 2017, 21:48 (Ref:3733521)   #1208
wolfhound
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Ireland
Posts: 3,070
wolfhound should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridwolfhound should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridwolfhound should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
If I recall correctly sky have exclusive live coverage of F1 in the UK next season. sky did the deal with Bernie shortly after C4 took over from the BBC.

I am wondering how Liberty are going to deal with this in relation C4 (or other FTA channel). C4 are doing a very good job with the 50% of the races they cover live. I suspect some sort of deal will need to be done over the summer months if not sooner if Liberty want to try and grow the sport but what can they offer FTA viewers other than delayed highlights (or even delayed full races)?
The British GP has to be available on FTA televison so there will have to be a deal done for it as well.
wolfhound is offline  
Quote
Old 15 May 2017, 01:46 (Ref:3733541)   #1209
ScotsBrutesFan
Race Official
Veteran
 
ScotsBrutesFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Scotland
West Lothian
Posts: 4,521
ScotsBrutesFan has a real shot at the championship!ScotsBrutesFan has a real shot at the championship!ScotsBrutesFan has a real shot at the championship!ScotsBrutesFan has a real shot at the championship!ScotsBrutesFan has a real shot at the championship!
Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfhound View Post
The British GP has to be available on FTA televison so there will have to be a deal done for it as well.
No, the British GP doesn't have to be, it isn't listed as a must be on FTA. It's entirely up to the Liberty if they want to insist on it being Live FTA.

Current listing

Article from February this year

The next FTA package could easily be highlights of 19 + British Live or 18 highlights plus British and final round (even though the title may already be decided).
With Liberty looking to increase the races it could be still 10 live, only out of 25 races. who knows?
ScotsBrutesFan is offline  
Quote
Old 15 May 2017, 05:01 (Ref:3733561)   #1210
crmalcolm
Veteran
 
crmalcolm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Italy
Posts: 1,842
crmalcolm should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridcrmalcolm should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfhound View Post
If I recall correctly sky have exclusive live coverage of F1 in the UK next season. sky did the deal with Bernie shortly after C4 took over from the BBC.
Channel 4 publicise their deal as being until the end of 2018. http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/channel-4-becomes-terrestrial-home-of-formula-1

From 2019, it's Sky only. With full British GP and highlights of other races on a free-to-air channel http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-35889736
crmalcolm is offline  
Quote
Old 15 May 2017, 13:31 (Ref:3733619)   #1211
bjohnsonsmith
Race Official
Veteran
 
bjohnsonsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
United States
London, England
Posts: 14,823
bjohnsonsmith is going for a new world record!bjohnsonsmith is going for a new world record!bjohnsonsmith is going for a new world record!bjohnsonsmith is going for a new world record!bjohnsonsmith is going for a new world record!bjohnsonsmith is going for a new world record!bjohnsonsmith is going for a new world record!bjohnsonsmith is going for a new world record!
Quote:
Originally Posted by crmalcolm View Post
Channel 4 publicise their deal as being until the end of 2018. http://www.channel4.com/info/press/n...e-of-formula-1

From 2019, it's Sky only. With full British GP and highlights of other races on a free-to-air channel http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-35889736
Hopefully Liberty Media will redress that. F1 stands to lose viewers if coverage solely goes to Sky.
bjohnsonsmith is offline  
__________________
"If you're not winning you're not trying."
Colin Chapman.
Quote
Old 15 May 2017, 18:01 (Ref:3733656)   #1212
S griffin
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,646
S griffin should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridS griffin should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridS griffin should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridS griffin should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Yeah I hope Liberty see their sense, they've done a good job so far, so hopefully this will be no different
S griffin is offline  
__________________
He who dares wins!
He who hesitates is lost!
Quote
Old 15 May 2017, 18:17 (Ref:3733663)   #1213
crmalcolm
Veteran
 
crmalcolm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Italy
Posts: 1,842
crmalcolm should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridcrmalcolm should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith View Post
Hopefully Liberty Media will redress that. F1 stands to lose viewers if coverage solely goes to Sky.
I guess it depends on how people can access the FTA channel being referred to. Terrestrial broadcast is being phased out by streaming and Smart TV's, so perhaps Liberty will take F1 in the UK from being restricted from Youtube, to a free streaming service in less than 5 yrs?
crmalcolm is offline  
Quote
Old 15 May 2017, 19:21 (Ref:3733676)   #1214
Mike Harte
Subscriber
Veteran
 
Mike Harte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
United Kingdom
W. Yorkshire
Posts: 2,138
Mike Harte should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridMike Harte should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Hasn't Germany announced recently that F1 will no longer be available of FTA, and only on pay-to-view?
Mike Harte is offline  
Quote
Old 22 Jun 2017, 06:58 (Ref:3745948)   #1215
F1Guy
Racer
 
F1Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Antarctica
Driving dangerously
Posts: 465
F1Guy should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridF1Guy should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
No free-to-air F1 in UK says Sean Bratches, confirming SkyF1's deal will stay until end of 2014.


Sean Bratches: "That deal is immutable."

"That deal is an agreement that we inherited, and these deals are done between two adult parties at an arm's length distance.

"So my suspicion is that Sky is very happy with that deal and we're going to honour and respect the deals that were in place when we arrived."
F1Guy is offline  
Quote
Reply

Bookmarks




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
If you have Sky, who did you watch the Chinese Grand Prix with -Sky or the BBC? Born Racer Formula One 59 21 Apr 2012 19:45
2011 UK TV coverage - Sky to drop IndyCar? jondownunder Indycar Series 23 8 Feb 2011 18:48
UK viewers - what did you think of the Sky Sports coverage? Knowlesy NASCAR & Stock Car Racing 76 6 Apr 2008 06:13
[TV] F1 TV coverage in the UK (merged) TheMong Armchair Enthusiast 30 13 Apr 2007 08:33


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT. The time now is 03:22.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2016 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.