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Old 22 Oct 2016, 20:04 (Ref:3681976)   #16
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No disrespect to the kiwis but if the Ssangyong series is anything to go by it will be a good time to go to the bar.
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You obviously have never witnessed a Ssangyong Series race other wise you would not be bagging the series. Ask anybody that was actually at the ITM Pukekohe round of the V8 Supercars last year and many would agree that some of the most exciting racing was provided by the 30 car field of Ssangyong utes running 3 and at times 4 wide around turn One, which makes for very exciting racing as they are not exactly slow around corners, just slow in a straight line. Our utes also use petrol engines so no belching black smoke from these utes thats for certain.

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Old 23 Oct 2016, 00:39 (Ref:3682013)   #17
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They looked reasonably quick on the telly at least.
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Old 23 Oct 2016, 13:50 (Ref:3682106)   #18
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Sizzle,

You obviously have never witnessed a Ssangyong Series race other wise you would not be bagging the series. Ask anybody that was actually at the ITM Pukekohe round of the V8 Supercars last year and many would agree that some of the most exciting racing was provided by the 30 car field of Ssangyong utes running 3 and at times 4 wide around turn One, which makes for very exciting racing as they are not exactly slow around corners, just slow in a straight line. Our utes also use petrol engines so no belching black smoke from these utes thats for certain.
I was at Puke last year Mark, I am sorry I found them to be boring as.
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Old 23 Oct 2016, 20:27 (Ref:3682296)   #19
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Number one priority for future ute series - cheap to repair
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Old 23 Oct 2016, 20:30 (Ref:3682298)   #20
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Is there really demand for this series by drivers and manufacturers?
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Old 24 Oct 2016, 00:19 (Ref:3682340)   #21
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Is there really demand for this series by drivers and manufacturers?
The real issue is that with Ford closing manufacturing here, the Ute is no longer being produced. Holden won't be too far behind, being only a year away from the same fate.

There is zero market relevance in 2 products that the consumer cannot buy any more.

Back in the 1990's there was an attempt by Mr Siddle to get a utes series up, 4 cylinder ones, with support from Nissan amongst others. That few people remember its existence could be telling as to how successful that was..

The concept of multiple manufacturers being represented is a good one, not so the importers can get involved necessarily, but perhaps that the dealers can.

Mr Harris for example is already backed by a Sydney Mazda dealer, despite driving another brand and living in another state. Imagine parlaying that into a West End Mazda BT50 versus a Western Toyota Hilux.. paritied to within an inch of their lives.. looking tough with parts & accessories available through the OEM dealer network....

But will the punters watch?
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Old 24 Oct 2016, 02:20 (Ref:3682365)   #22
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Number one priority for future ute series - cheap to repair
Easy to say, but if it is going to be production-based it is impossible to make a reality.

If you want to make them cheap to fix they have to be bespoke, which makes them more expensive to make.
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Old 24 Oct 2016, 04:20 (Ref:3682373)   #23
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As it is, the current ute series is already a few years behind, still running FG and VE panels.
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Old 24 Oct 2016, 04:35 (Ref:3682377)   #24
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The solution to this is simple (or not): Run various marque bodies in the Stadium trucks.
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Old 24 Oct 2016, 04:37 (Ref:3682379)   #25
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The solution to this is simple (or not): Run various marque bodies in the Stadium trucks.
We dont control stadium trucks though, Its an american thing, that pays special visits to aust
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Old 24 Oct 2016, 04:40 (Ref:3682380)   #26
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We? You and I?

So pay Robbie Gordon a licensing fee, set up a similar series in Australia but with various marques bodies (Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Great Wall etc) with a cheap buy in and a REC style entry point, and bang, away you go.
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Old 24 Oct 2016, 04:44 (Ref:3682381)   #27
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Nascar trucks?

Just throw the relevent headlight and grille stickers on them, and represent whichever brand suits your sponsors.
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Old 24 Oct 2016, 04:45 (Ref:3682382)   #28
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So pay Robbie Gordon a licensing fee, set up a similar series in Australia but with various marques bodies (Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Great Wall etc) with a cheap buy in and a REC style entry point, and bang, away you go.
Just so you are clear a stadium super truck cost about $US300K

If you want to do the season budget for $US250K

the space frame series that as originally being considered was meant to cost $A120K. These super utes will be cheaper than that

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Old 24 Oct 2016, 04:50 (Ref:3682384)   #29
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You're less likely to write one off, compared to a ute, which are up there in terms of build costs. And if you seriously bin one of those, there's not a whole lot you'll be able to salvage.
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Old 24 Oct 2016, 04:54 (Ref:3682386)   #30
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You're less likely to write one off, compared to a ute, which are up there in terms of build costs. And if you seriously bin one of those, there's not a whole lot you'll be able to salvage.
as mixer said "If you want to make them cheap to fix they have to be bespoke, which makes them more expensive to make."

Cost to repair should be similar to the current ute
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