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13 May 2017, 01:33 (Ref:3733105)
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The thing is no-one else has the levels of recent experience that his company do. Not just in building to the FIA requirements but also the buildings and infrastructure that go with it. But also advising on changes to circuits.
That alone makes his company difficult to beat if it went to a short list.
Apex are the only other company that even springs to mind for the short list.
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26 Jun 2017, 16:20 (Ref:3747003)
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Rose-tinted spectacles and/or selective memory?
I think a dispassionate study will reveal that LH is far better behaved - and certainly more sober - than G Hill ever was.
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Interesting item in the news, today.
Here:
This is not real motor racing; rather, spoilt overpaid, overhyped badly behaved children...
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26 Jun 2017, 16:32 (Ref:3747009)
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Originally Posted by SidewaysFeltham
Interesting item in the news, today.
Here:
This is not real motor racing; rather, spoilt overpaid, overhyped badly behaved children... |
You should post this on the race thread.
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26 Jun 2017, 23:05 (Ref:3747128)
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Originally Posted by SidewaysFeltham
Interesting item in the news, today.
Here:
This is not real motor racing; rather, spoilt overpaid, overhyped badly behaved children... |
singular in this case (Vettel, as usual) since the FIA examined LH's data and stated he had not brake-tested SV, nor even slowed..
Your point was...?
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27 Jun 2017, 00:52 (Ref:3747149)
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27 Jun 2017, 06:42 (Ref:3747194)
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Well what do we make of F1 since Bernie went? Does anyone else notice a ramping up of the "entertainment" side? Safety cars instead of VSC to pick up the small pieces of debris. Allowing cars to continue despite shedding said debris - an obvious black/orange flag on "normal" racing. And now paltry penalties for dangerous driving, because it gets F1 headline news around the world.
Just how bad was Bernie again? At least he was a racing purist, he didn't worry about ratings as long as someone was settling his huge bills.
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27 Jun 2017, 10:27 (Ref:3747247)
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Well what do we make of F1 since Bernie went? Does anyone else notice a ramping up of the "entertainment" side? Safety cars instead of VSC to pick up the small pieces of debris. Allowing cars to continue despite shedding said debris - an obvious black/orange flag on "normal" racing. And now paltry penalties for dangerous driving, because it gets F1 headline news around the world.
Just how bad was Bernie again? At least he was a racing purist, he didn't worry about ratings as long as someone was settling his huge bills.
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This was only one race and the 8th of a 22 race season, so it's far too early to make a judgement. Wait till the chequered flag is waived at Abu Dhabi.
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27 Jun 2017, 13:15 (Ref:3747290)
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I wouldn't judge it on the actions of one race either. We've had many feelgood stories like with the Ferrari fan in Spain, Fred going to Indy and then joining the crowd in Canada. I think the human element is returning to F1, which was always hidden before
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27 Jun 2017, 15:48 (Ref:3747346)
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Don't confuse marketing and racing.
F1's marketing has improved dramatically, no question about that.
Racing hasn't. DRS is still there. Very few teams can aspire to podiums. Costs are prohibitive.
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27 Jun 2017, 16:03 (Ref:3747353)
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just on the racing side of things, Pirelli are acting far more sensibly then they did when they had the cover of BE and his magic mandate formula and as a result one could say the racing is better because the company is now more open to supplying the tire compounds the teams actually want.
dont know who gets credit for that though?
9 out of 10 teams scored points at Baku...is that a win for the Liberty era or BE era?
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1 Jul 2017, 00:57 (Ref:3748047)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by midgetman
Well what do we make of F1 since Bernie went? Does anyone else notice a ramping up of the "entertainment" side? Safety cars instead of VSC to pick up the small pieces of debris. Allowing cars to continue despite shedding said debris - an obvious black/orange flag on "normal" racing. And now paltry penalties for dangerous driving, because it gets F1 headline news around the world.
Just how bad was Bernie again? At least he was a racing purist, he didn't worry about ratings as long as someone was settling his huge bills.
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wut, lol?Bernie Eccelstone a racing purist? What was that mental medal idea he had again a few years ago?
I don't think the paltry penalty was a decree that was issued from Chase.
The words out of Liberty are good, particularly the attention to cultivating the European venues and the respect for its history. Eccelstone was the exact inverse of that.
But the proof is in the pudding. If there's a ramping up of gimmicks, then that's not good from the pov of what I want from the sport.
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1 Jul 2017, 08:04 (Ref:3748081)
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Bernie didn't care as long as he got good profit. That's why he always went for wacky ideas like medals, knockout quali, double points, sprinklers, shortcuts. Thankfully they are all confined to the scrapheap
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