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Old 12 May 2017, 13:35 (Ref:3732987)   #16
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How about this for a wacky thought.

The Muscle Car Masters need rejuvenating according to some on here

The Virgin Australia Supercars Championship round at Sydney Motorsport Park has struggled for a crowd for over ten years.

Why not combine the two of them?

Run the event in it's current August date. Make is the Supercars Heritage event.

Have a Supercars race on Saturday arvo and Sunday arvo, bring back the Touring Car Masters, and have Group C/A, Group Na/b/c, Heritage Hot Laps, Master Blasts etc.. through the rest of the day as the support races. You can even keep the Production Car enduro, maybe run it just on the Saturday night though.

Supercars and the ARDC would have to work together and co-promote though....is that possible?
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Old 12 May 2017, 13:57 (Ref:3732994)   #17
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Have a Supercars race on Saturday arvo and Sunday arvo, bring back the Touring Car Masters, and have Group C/A, Group Na/b/c, Heritage Hot Laps, Master Blasts etc.. through the rest of the day as the support races. You can even keep the Production Car enduro, maybe run it just on the Saturday night though.
I'd be for the event, but I think you have far too many classes to get through.

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Supercars and the ARDC would have to work together and co-promote though....is that possible?
Prior form isn't promising.
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Old 13 May 2017, 09:08 (Ref:3733137)   #18
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Can you see Supercars agreeing to this and thereby admitting they need us to help them survive and not look desperate? Also all other categories that are used to high profile positioning at MCM would now be kicked to the back of Bourke which wouldn't make many of us very happy as we know Historic racing is healthier than Supercars is at the moment. Some might say that Supercars should almost be the support category not the rest of us.
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Old 13 May 2017, 11:33 (Ref:3733165)   #19
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Should happen in the same year as Supercars become part of the card at Phillip Island Historics helping them draw a crowd at another circuit where numbers at Supercar rounds have been on the low side for most of the past 20 years.
The big losers out of this would be the competitors in other classes at MCM and people who might want 2 meetings to attend.
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Old 13 May 2017, 11:34 (Ref:3733168)   #20
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How about this for a wacky thought.

The Muscle Car Masters need rejuvenating according to some on here

The Virgin Australia Supercars Championship round at Sydney Motorsport Park has struggled for a crowd for over ten years.

Why not combine the two of them?

Run the event in it's current August date. Make is the Supercars Heritage event.

Have a Supercars race on Saturday arvo and Sunday arvo, bring back the Touring Car Masters, and have Group C/A, Group Na/b/c, Heritage Hot Laps, Master Blasts etc.. through the rest of the day as the support races. You can even keep the Production Car enduro, maybe run it just on the Saturday night though.

Supercars and the ARDC would have to work together and co-promote though....is that possible?
Careful, you will be locked up as radical, and designated as a rebel, and will come under the watch list of ppl against Supercars
The Cyber police will trace you and you will be banned from attending motorsport.

But agree with you
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Old 23 Oct 2017, 07:57 (Ref:3775799)   #21
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Muscle Car Masters are on this weekend, I'm told the "6hrs of Sydney" isn't though?

Does that mean the Masters aren't destroyed afterall?
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Old 23 Oct 2017, 09:40 (Ref:3775808)   #22
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Muscle Car Masters are on this weekend, I'm told the "6hrs of Sydney" isn't though?

Does that mean the Masters aren't destroyed afterall?
Apparently only 8 entries for 6 Hour.Replaced with 3 sprint races for state level production cars.
With TCM tied by contract to Supercars another retro class like Trans Am would be more suitable.Supposed to be 37 degrees in western Sydney this Sunday so not real encouraging for casual fans.
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Obviously its not easy to judge from streaming, but the crowds looked to have stayed away in droves...
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Obviously its not easy to judge from streaming, but the crowds looked to have stayed away in droves...
just asking as i have no real idea about the crowd, but did they ever turn up on Saturday morning?
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Yeah, in the heyday of Fathers Day they did. Like I said, hard to judge from camera angles provided, but car parking on the hill at Turn 2/3/4 is pretty vacant.
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Yeah, in the heyday of Fathers Day they did. Like I said, hard to judge from camera angles provided, but car parking on the hill at Turn 2/3/4 is pretty vacant.
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Obviously its not easy to judge from streaming, but the crowds looked to have stayed away in droves...
Sunday is the main day, always has been
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Old 29 Oct 2017, 08:25 (Ref:3777170)   #28
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Was there on the Saturday, only ARDC members could park near turns 2-4. Others parked near adjacent to the main straight. I thought it was a reasonable crowd for a Saturday. Behind the pits seemed very busy. Good thing that the 6 hour race was cancelled. Interesting and varied program of events.
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Old 29 Oct 2017, 09:23 (Ref:3777179)   #29
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Overall the weekend was a great success- far more entertaining than the last couple of years and a good Saturday crowd spread around the track.Today saw a larger crowd considering the 37c temperature and some sensational dices right through the various fields. Even though the main Gardner circuit was used we saw Mustang v Mini v Lotus Cortina racelong battles with some excellent safe racing.
The various displays were well patronised and patrons appeared to enjoy the freedom of access to the main pit and paddock areas.
A definite step up from previous events and the change of date from Fathers Day seemed to be a great innovation.
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Bloody hell it was hot there. The Saturday crowd was quite good but Sunday was a disappointment for me. They tried a new paddock set up with all the display cars behind the garages which made for a great sight even though our trailers were consigned to the boon docks. They've got ideas again to reinvigorate the meeting and I'm sure it will get better again next year.
From the driver's seat, it wasn't a good weekend for me. I struggled with a lack of grip all weekend and only managed 6th in the Group A race and 7th in the combined races except the last race where I suffered a DNF with another lock up so bad it went through to the belts. The meeting was pretty well organised again and I appreciate what all the marshalls and flaggies did for us all in the heat there.
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