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Old 8 Nov 2017, 18:20 (Ref:3779502)   #31
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In my book being a decent person always trumps driving ability and therefore in my opinion Felipe is truly a champion
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Old 8 Nov 2017, 18:48 (Ref:3779504)   #32
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Massas a lovely guy. The entire F1 paddock clearly loved him - I don't remember such emotion for any other driver retiring. I think anyone who seems to have this impression that Massa was disliked needs to have a quick look back at very recent history.
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Old 8 Nov 2017, 18:51 (Ref:3779506)   #33
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After he was within one corner of winning the WDC in 2008, I assumed that he would become WDC one day - or at least would have another chance or two. His performances in that year were really excellent.

I did not realise until I just checked that his win at that race in Brazil in 2008 was his last in F1. A few months later he was lucky to be alive after that accident. I guess we will never know if that had any affect on his driving.

I think the time is right for him to move on.
I thought he was lucky to come so close in 2008. I didn’t think of him as championship material. This was before his accident. I can’t really tell if he accident had a long term effect on him.

He was a decent driver, but just not top draw like Schumacher or Alonso, but then few rarely are. He was a likeable fellow who certainly showed his emotion. It’s probably time to move and and I suspect he’ll continue to enjoy his racing. Which more than makes him a winner.
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Old 9 Nov 2017, 04:24 (Ref:3779566)   #34
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Well, Massa then will retire. Probably a future in FE and Brazilian Stock Cars.
Who will replace him? Pedro Piquet is in good terms with Lance, probably he could be at least as reserve driver next year.
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Old 9 Nov 2017, 11:10 (Ref:3779585)   #35
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I think going to Williams was the best thing he could do. Like when DC went to RBR, he used his experience to the best effect and helped Williams greatly
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Old 9 Nov 2017, 23:54 (Ref:3779710)   #36
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I think going to Williams was the best thing he could do. Like when DC went to RBR, he used his experience to the best effect and helped Williams greatly

I think you are right, and I also think that Williams and Stroll are going to deeply regret dumping Massa and appointing any of the three candidates touted for Massa's place.

Williams seem to continuously shoot themselves in the foot with their driver selections.
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Old 10 Nov 2017, 11:08 (Ref:3779760)   #37
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IDK, if Kubica is still as good as before, who knows?
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Old 10 Nov 2017, 11:15 (Ref:3779764)   #38
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IDK, if Kubica is still as good as before, who knows?
True. As much as I'd like to see Kubica get the Williams seat, I don't think he's the same driver he was pre 2010. I hope I'm wrong on that though. Would love to see him on the podium at some stage in 2018 if he get's the drive.

But I reckon Kubica - with his injuries and all, would still be a better driver than Massa.
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Old 13 Nov 2017, 04:00 (Ref:3780137)   #39
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Hard not to be even a little moved/grown man crying when Felipe's little boy was on the radio at the end to him.
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Hard not to be even a little moved/grown man crying when Felipe's little boy was on the radio at the end to him.
yeah that was a very touching moment and kudos to the organizers/FOM for getting Massa and Barri on the podium to share some words and thoughts with the fans.

random thought though...is it really that hard in this day and age to provide for a translation in real time...whether it be translating the English Q&A into Portuguese for the local fans or vice versa for the TV audience at home?

not suggesting a voice over but a translation caption on the jumbotron (a little bit harder to do that in real time admittedly) and also for the TV broadcast (which could be easily done with a 30sec tape delay).
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Old 13 Nov 2017, 17:18 (Ref:3780216)   #41
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I am glad he gets a better result than he did last season at his final home GP and he certainly seemed to fired up and enjoyed it. I'm pleased for him
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Old 16 Nov 2017, 11:34 (Ref:3780717)   #42
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Old 16 Nov 2017, 15:42 (Ref:3780770)   #43
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I don't know how having a slower team mate will help, surely a faster one helps him match that
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Old 16 Nov 2017, 18:01 (Ref:3780803)   #44
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I don't know how having a slower team mate will help, surely a faster one helps him match that
Perhaps slower the teammate larger the bag of cash from daddy Stroll
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Old 16 Nov 2017, 22:02 (Ref:3780855)   #45
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Perhaps slower the teammate larger the bag of cash from daddy Stroll
I don't get the slower team mate either, and I think that Williams fundamentally have lost the art of developing a fast car, they constantly harp on about their lack of budget and get caught in the pay driver market.

Force India however seem to be able to avoid this trap and continuously outperform their budget limits.

Really thought that Paddy Lowe would have put an end to the pay driver nonsense. Hopefully they find someone worth the seat, not any of the three they have touted so far.
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