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Old 11 Feb 2017, 03:42 (Ref:3711480)   #1
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1990s F1 cars - where are they?

I'm a product of 1990's F1 fandom.

Born in 1990, I remember getting a model of Mansell's FW14B that I treasured more than anything as a very, very young child.

I have vague memories of watching the later rounds of 1993 but my first full season was 1994. Morbid curiosity and the fact it was my first season means that remains my favourite one.

The cars of the 1990's are to me, the definition of F1. If you were to ask me to draw a stereotypical car, it'd be 1990's shaped with some form of cigarette or alcohol livery. They always looked amazing, even the 1995 McLaren...honest...

Anyway, I know McLaren keep a huge selection of their old cars in storage. I know Williams have their museum and also a heritage department dedicated to getting their older cars running and maintaining them. Ferrari have the F1 Clienti program too. Honda have their collection hall with several McLaren and Williams cars.

I know there are museums like the Donington collection and the one at Mondello Park too that have a wide range of cars from that era.

BOSS series has a couple of cars too, usually Benettons like the B197 or a Jordan or two.

I was just wondering if people knew where each chassis' was for each year during the decade?

For instance, I know one of Schumacher's 1994 B194 was for sale (famously the ad included traction control) and that it was one of 8 chassis that year.

Surely they all still exist? Even the smaller teams created a few chassis a year?

I don't know of all the ones stored in museums though I have seen photos of a few Larrousse and other French cars in a museum in France and I think the Barber Motorsports Park in America has a museum with a couple of Lotus (including a 109) but where are the rest?

I'd love to get a list of each car for each year sorted. Is there anyone on here with knowledge of where a specific car might be?
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Old 11 Feb 2017, 12:55 (Ref:3711529)   #2
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https://racecarsdirect.com/SubCatego...ce-cars?page=2

Always interesting to see what comes up on here...Hill's Brabham is currently listed
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Old 11 Feb 2017, 14:57 (Ref:3711544)   #3
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I heard that Frits van Eerd owns more than 70 F1 cars from the 90s.
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Old 11 Feb 2017, 21:46 (Ref:3711581)   #4
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there was a chap with a huge collection of benettons, but i think he decided to sell up?
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Old 12 Feb 2017, 04:18 (Ref:3711620)   #5
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Visited the "Concord & Concordski on a stick" museum at Simshiem in 03.
At that time they had a fair number of then fairly recent F1 cars on show.
Are they still there?
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Old 12 Feb 2017, 09:36 (Ref:3711642)   #6
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A bar in Birmingham used to have a 1994 Benetton on the wall, probably a "show" car. Its gone now.
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Old 13 Feb 2017, 00:05 (Ref:3711755)   #7
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there was a chap with a huge collection of benettons, but i think he decided to sell up?
Would that be the guy who owns Kockney Koi and ran a couple in BOSS? Dave Shelton I think his name is.
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Old 14 Feb 2017, 16:33 (Ref:3712147)   #8
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Didn't James Martin (TV Chef) have a couple as well? Jordan and BAR spring to mind.

In EuroBOSS there have been Jordans, Tyrells, Arrows, Simtek, Benettons - not sure what's currently active and what isn't though. Last year at Brands there were some on display at one of the meets - again Benettons but a Lotus and Prost as well.
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Old 14 Feb 2017, 17:57 (Ref:3712153)   #9
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And doesn't Mr Ecclestone possess quite a few pre-owned F1 cars as well. I seem to recall reading that he could produce a full grid of cars for a historic race, but I don't know from what period that they all came from.
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I remember James Martin trying his Benetton 196 on Fifth Gear back in 2009
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A bar in Birmingham used to have a 1994 Benetton on the wall, probably a "show" car. Its gone now.
There was an ex Nannini Bennetton hanging from the roof in a bar in Temple Bar Dublin that disappeared when the theme changed a few years back. I heard it turned up in Australia
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Would that be the guy who owns Kockney Koi and ran a couple in BOSS? Dave Shelton I think his name is.
Klaas Zwart also owned a few(wich were rebranded "Ascari" in BOSS GP)
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Old 19 Feb 2017, 10:48 (Ref:3713128)   #13
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Zak Brown has a few, collection includes Senna's Monaco Toleman and his later John Player Special as well as an Alan Jones Williams.
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Old 19 Feb 2017, 11:17 (Ref:3713131)   #14
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No doubt they are still about and complete, however running them is another matter as the years go on and the mechanics that serviced the complicated beasts in the day are slowly disappearing.
I know Bernie has a few at Biggin Hill !
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fair point gordon - can't some of the late 90s mclarens only be fired up using a period laptop?
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