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Old 11 Nov 2017, 03:47 (Ref:3779869)   #31
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Do you truly believe that after the comments by Red Bull hierarchy regarding wanting Max to be world champion in the next two years, that Dan will get a fair go in the next two years if he was to stay? Honestly?
Of course he'll get a fair go. RB isn't Ferrari. Just as much as Webber got a fair chance against Seb.
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Old 12 Nov 2017, 22:12 (Ref:3780101)   #32
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Daniel Ricciardo will destroy Hamilton just like he did with Vettel and Max. all while sipping on some good ol English tea in the cockpit.
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Old 13 Nov 2017, 00:11 (Ref:3780114)   #33
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Of course he'll get a fair go. RB isn't Ferrari. Just as much as Webber got a fair chance against Seb.
But Webber did not get a fair chance aga... ooh, I see what you did there.
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Old 21 Nov 2017, 15:08 (Ref:3781971)   #34
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Daniel Ricciardo will destroy Hamilton just like he did with Vettel and Max. all while sipping on some good ol English tea in the cockpit.
He would have a good chance against the off form Hamilton but slim chance against the guy we saw this season!

In terms of outright speed I don't think there's much in it between Danny and Valtteri anyway.
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Not sure what there is for Mercedes to gain in signing Ricciardo. They've just won both titles, and introducing someone else just introduces drama. I'm not sure why they would do it.

The Webber stuff is amusing though. Vettel was winning world titles with a ridiculous points lead, whilst Webber was struggling to fight off other cars. There's a reason that Vettel got preferential treatment - he was the one getting the job done.
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Old 21 Nov 2017, 19:08 (Ref:3782043)   #36
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Nothing at all to gain for Mercedes in signing Ricciardo as far as I can see and Daniel will only be jumping from playing second fiddle in one band to the same in another........
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And there we have our winner. The truest statement made in the entirety of this thread.

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He would have a good chance against the off form Hamilton but slim chance against the guy we saw this season!

In terms of outright speed I don't think there's much in it between Danny and Valtteri anyway.
do you think Hamilton was ''off form'' when he got beaten by Rosberg last year?
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At times, probably yes. I firmly believe that Hamilton fully on form with no car issues would have beaten Rosberg over the season.
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Nothing at all to gain for Mercedes in signing Ricciardo as far as I can see and Daniel will only be jumping from playing second fiddle in one band to the same in another........
They don't while Ferrari only have 1 good driver. But if Ferrari and RB are closer again in 2018 and Merc end up coming third in the constructors because Bottas didn't pull his pants up, that's the reason they'll need to hire a better #2. Also, what if Ricciardo is champ next season with Hamilton second?

But yeah I don't think Ric will be that much faster than Bottas. Then again I didn't think he'd leave Vettel trailing.

It just depends if Merc are a team that want to have 2 great drivers that'll the constructors, but could take points off each other in drivers, or 1 great driver and a #2 that always finishes behind (hello Ferrari). At the moment they seem to prefer the latter option.
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Bottas is closer to Vettel than Vettel is to Hamilton. I don’t really see the problem with Bottas performance. Certainly not enough to warrant replacing.

To be honest, this rumour appears to be out of hope Ricciardo can get a Mercedes seat rather than looking for a replacement for an under performing Mercedes driver. If I were Mercedes I'm not sure I'd be interested in the driver that Red Bull doesn't want.
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Not sure what there is for Mercedes to gain in signing Ricciardo. They've just won both titles, and introducing someone else just introduces drama. I'm not sure why they would do it.

The Webber stuff is amusing though. Vettel was winning world titles with a ridiculous points lead, whilst Webber was struggling to fight off other cars. There's a reason that Vettel got preferential treatment - he was the one getting the job done.
Agree to a point - but Webber was right up there, and leading for a fair chunk of 2010 despite things like Vettel getting new front wings.

A bung strategy in Abu Dhabi and a silly crash in Korea cost him more than preferential treatment, and he outdrove Vettel in 2010.
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Ricciardo will beat Hamilton as easily as he did with Vettel.
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Agree to a point - but Webber was right up there, and leading for a fair chunk of 2010 despite things like Vettel getting new front wings.

A bung strategy in Abu Dhabi and a silly crash in Korea cost him more than preferential treatment, and he outdrove Vettel in 2010.
"he [Webber] outdrove Vettel in 2010" Skam85
By what measure?

2010 Season Vettel V Webber

Comparisons
Outqualification: Vettel 12 to 7
Poles: Vettel 10 Webber 5
Wins: Vettel 5 Webber 4
Championship Points: Vettel 256 Webber 242
Championship Position: Vettel 1 Webber3

Retirements: Vettel 2 car failures 1 collision. Webber 2 collisions (Kovalainen & Rosberg)
Vettel: Australia wheel bearing; Turkey collision Webber (retired); Korea engine failure.
Webber: European GP collision Kovalainen; Korea hit wall then Rosberg.

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Vettel 1: Turkey collision with Webber.
Webber 5: Australia fell off leading and again defending Hamilton; Turkey collision Vettell (finished 3);
European GP collision hit Kovalainen; Korea fell off hit wall then Rosberg.

More like Vettel comprehensively beat Webber in 2010.
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that Webber felt it necessary to hide his fractured shoulder from his team makes me think, that at the least, MW believed that RB play favorites.
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