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Old 12 Nov 2017, 09:12 (Ref:3780018)   #31
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Seems as though the added security and Police presence has made no difference. More robbery attempts on F1 personnel after the supposed increased security.
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Old 12 Nov 2017, 10:56 (Ref:3780023)   #32
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Well done Bottas, Lewis chucks it away, will make for an interesting race wet or dry and good to see Fred up there again, hope the Honda engine lasts.

But yeah, not good they need all this extra security, hope there are no more incidents for the rest of the weekend. It unfortunately happens quite often down there
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Old 12 Nov 2017, 12:21 (Ref:3780042)   #33
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Seems as though the added security and Police presence has made no difference. More robbery attempts on F1 personnel after the supposed increased security.
how come mexico city provide police escorts for everyone, everywhere and interlagos doesnít? if the city donít have the police numbers to do so then the organisers need to do something.

it helps to mention a source if you have one - iíve seen ruth buscombe mention on twitter that their van was attacked but not stopping got them out of trouble. anyone else?
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Old 12 Nov 2017, 12:55 (Ref:3780045)   #34
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Seems as though the added security and Police presence has made no difference. More robbery attempts on F1 personnel after the supposed increased security.
I've seen reports that the attack on FIA personnel was the same incident. They attempted to get into an FIA van that has armoured windows, this failed. The Williams van behind managed to get away and the Mercedes van was next in the line.

If this is a separate incident, it would be interesting to see a report of what happened. If it is just alleged at the moment, probably shouldn't be portrayed as fact as it will be a criminal matter.
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Old 12 Nov 2017, 13:16 (Ref:3780047)   #35
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Something similar happened to Jenson Button in 2010.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...tack-sao-paulo
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Old 12 Nov 2017, 16:07 (Ref:3780058)   #36
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I am so fed up with Romain Grosjean...He needs to go back to the factory and test steering parts for the rest of his career....

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Old 12 Nov 2017, 16:10 (Ref:3780060)   #37
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That was initially a clean start but Grosjean ran into Ocon, though it looks like the SC was already deployed because of Vandoorne and Magnussen coming together.
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Old 12 Nov 2017, 16:18 (Ref:3780061)   #38
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Haas wishing they had the Renault driver lineup.

and Lewis Hamilton looking like he could still win this

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Hamilton vs Alonso incoming.
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Old 12 Nov 2017, 16:37 (Ref:3780063)   #40
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I am so fed up with Romain Grosjean...He needs to go back to the factory and test steering parts for the rest of his career....

He's been penalised and deservedly so.
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Congrats to Vettel. Is this what Ferrari will be capable of next year? It will be 11 years since they last won the WDC and WCC.

A very creditable 7th for Massa.
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Old 12 Nov 2017, 18:13 (Ref:3780068)   #42
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This end of the season has been fantastic with Ferrari and Red Bull looking like they want to be regular contenders for victory next season! What more can we ask for! Mclaren resurgence?
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All the Renault engines were tuned down because of lack of spare parts, very amateurish by Renault
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The thing is with the power unit rules as they currently are there is only going to be a limited production run of bits. They were allowed 4 of everything per car before penalties, and so how many do you build for the season?

Renault power 6 cars (including RBR) so that's a minimum of 24 of each part over the season. How many spares of the Race 1 spec do you build? If you make a change to improve reliability of that how many of that next spec of each do you build?

At what point in the season does Renault realise that it would be best served to invest in and prototype next years power unit parts which many of a completely different design or configuration rather than another produce another batch of current spec that may or may not be needed?

Sure it looks like Renault have miscalculated but I'm not sure it can be called amateurish.
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The thing is with the power unit rules as they currently are there is only going to be a limited production run of bits. They were allowed 4 of everything per car before penalties, and so how many do you build for the season?

Renault power 6 cars (including RBR) so that's a minimum of 24 of each part over the season. How many spares of the Race 1 spec do you build? If you make a change to improve reliability of that how many of that next spec of each do you build?

At what point in the season does Renault realise that it would be best served to invest in and prototype next years power unit parts which many of a completely different design or configuration rather than another produce another batch of current spec that may or may not be needed?

Sure it looks like Renault have miscalculated but I'm not sure it can be called amateurish.
Given that the AMG Project One road car is slated to cost $2.8M complete, and Red Bull and STR are paying $85M a piece for their F1 engines, and now don't have spares, I think criminally extortionate would be a wholly more appropriate term than amateurish.
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