Zandvoort sold out ALREADY?

Kiwi3 · 5 Apr 2006, 10:14 (Ref:1571272)

Looked on the A1GP web site earlier today and was surprised that Zandvoort tickets are already available, but then shocked to see that all the grandstand tickets are already sold out!

Surely they have been bulk purchased by an agency or something, it was only announced a few days ago after all!

Anyone know more about this, or how to still get tickets? I do have a clash with F1 back here in shanghai but was still thinking of going if Brno is the following week as rumoured.

Rime · 5 Apr 2006, 12:33 (Ref:1571379)

That’s correct: The ticket sales started on Monday and all grandstands are sold out. Only tickets you can purchase are Dune Tickets (which isn't a bad place either).

The ticket sales are huge because of the immense popularity of Verstappen in The Netherlands (he once demonstrated a F1 car on Zandvoort for about 60.000 visitors). One of the reasons for the A1GP being held on Zandvoort is that Verstappen-supporters gathered 16.000 autographs with an online petition to race in Zandvoort. Over the weekend there will be more than 250.000 spectators.

SALEEN S7R · 5 Apr 2006, 12:40 (Ref:1571385)

Wow thats very impressive, hopefully we will see record crowds at all the other rounds too. Id not mind betting that the GB round will be signifcantly bigger next season.

Kiwi3 · 5 Apr 2006, 13:48 (Ref:1571431)

Unbelieveable!

I don't think we'll see the 'financial problems' thread again

Kebab · 5 Apr 2006, 15:40 (Ref:1571489)

Great news!! I think its clear from this that A1 GP has captured fans' interest around the world ... I hope many other races are like this next season!

It really does make great TV ...

luke · 5 Apr 2006, 16:54 (Ref:1571530)

Should make up for the poor attendance at Laguna Seca. But then again any race would be popular at Zandvoort.

Fiorentina 1 · 5 Apr 2006, 19:55 (Ref:1571680)

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Originally Posted by luke

Should make up for the poor attendance at Laguna Seca. But then again any race would be popular at Zandvoort.

I don't think China had too many people either.

Wow, sold out already! If that is indeed the case, A1 should hold another round there or one close by, like at SPA or Zolder. Maybe, that will motivate someone to start a Belgium team....

Kiwi3 · 6 Apr 2006, 01:52 (Ref:1571865)

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I don't think China had too many people either.

I have not seen the official figures, but the crowd was reasonable. The main grandstand was more than half full, the stands on the outside of the first corner were pretty full (not sure if you would have seen them on TV) and there were quite a few people at the hairpin as well. However the capacity of the circuit is enormous, there are a lot of large grandstands on the far side of the circuit that I am not sure they bothered opening.

I was pleasantly surprised considering that motorsport is a novelty here and that most people have already been to F1.

Alan 52 · 6 Apr 2006, 02:15 (Ref:1571871)

The crowd at Shanghai looked considerably bigger than at either Moto
GP or V8 Supercars last year.I really think A1 would be better off returning there at the expense of Sepang although Sepang is a great circuit.

Fiorentina 1 · 6 Apr 2006, 04:40 (Ref:1571904)

Strange, from one of the TV shot of a pair of grand-stands it looked like there was no one there. Maybe that was just those grand-stands? After that shot, I didn't really pay attention to the crowd. I'm glad there was paople there. I like this series a lot and would like to see it grow. That's why I made sure to go to Laguna Seca.

Kiwi3 · 6 Apr 2006, 09:41 (Ref:1572048)

Sepang had a smallish but very parochial crowd, but should be even better next year now that Alex has won a race, plus they now have Proton who will no doubt help with promotion.

On the Shanghai circuit web site they are claiming a weekend crowd of 80,000, I think that is overstated by quite some margin.

Rob29 · 6 Apr 2006, 10:42 (Ref:1572118)

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Originally Posted by Kiwi3

Sepang had a smallish but very parochial crowd, but should be even better next year now that Alex has won a race, plus they now have Proton who will no doubt help with promotion.

On the Shanghai circuit web site they are claiming a weekend crowd of 80,000, I think that is overstated by quite some margin.

By about 10 times I would say.Stated capacity of the stands is 100,000 of which most were empty,those open about 10% occupied. So maybe 8,000 would be right for race day? About 80 on Saturday.Pretty poor show from a population of one billion? And it looked like the 80 on saturday had flown in from Amsterdam!!!

madmed · 6 Apr 2006, 11:20 (Ref:1572153)

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Originally Posted by Rob29

BStated capacity of the stands is 100,000

Its 200.000

MickAU · 6 Apr 2006, 11:34 (Ref:1572167)

I struggle to believe this to be true - remember there were the rumours about Brands Hatch and Eastern Creek that floated around before those races - must one think they come from within A1 Grand Prix themselves.

There would be a lot of water to go under the bridge before Zandvoort is even confirmed, let alone going ahead (with the remainder of the series in 06/07).

I wouldnt believe anything yet

Kiwi3 · 6 Apr 2006, 12:51 (Ref:1572239)

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There would be a lot of water to go under the bridge before Zandvoort is even confirmed, let alone going ahead (with the remainder of the series in 06/07).

Wow what a pessimistic view! I see a lot of evidence that it will go ahead, and no evidence that it won't. Zandvoort is confirmed, and the grandstand tickets all sold. Setup phase is now over, and the hardware is now already in place.

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those open about 10% occupied. So maybe 8,000 would be right for race day? About 80 on Saturday.Pretty poor show from a population of one billion?

Er no, the stands that were open were a lot more than 10% occupied...On race day I estimated 10-20,000 but it is so hard to tell. Definitely a couple of thousand on Saturday, at least. There was a very long queue for the drivers autograph session on the Saturday, and after the half hour was up only half the queue had made it, leaving the rest disappointed. I hate to think what the autograph session on race day morning was like...I didn't bother!

The fact that China's population is one billion is not relevant at all. A grandstand ticket is the equivalent of a year's income for the vast majority, and the wealthy educated minority had barely heard of motorsport until two years ago. It is still very much a novelty here, and F1 arrived first.

Miranda · 17 Apr 2006, 14:45 (Ref:1585846)

Ahh well that's gonna be the dunes then for me... not a bad place either.

Zandbak · 17 Apr 2006, 21:18 (Ref:1587122)

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Originally Posted by Kiwi3

Wow what a pessimistic view! I see a lot of evidence that it will go ahead, and no evidence that it won't. Zandvoort is confirmed, and the grandstand tickets all sold. Setup phase is now over, and the hardware is now already in place.

The race is confirmed by the circuit of Zandvoort and the A1GP organisation. But that doesn't mean that it will happen

Why? Because some "noise-licenses" are not up to date yet.

Zandvoort has 5 unrestricted noise-days in 2006 (for the F3 masters and the DTM). A few months back they gained 7 extra noise-days with a restriction of 96 dBA. But some local protests troubled the water

That means that the A1GP has to run on a 96 dBA-day........if they get those seven 96dBA-days. Show me an A1GP-car that produces a maximum of 96 dBA. Yeah, Verstappen in the pits at Laguna Seca when he stepped out

It's true that a lot of tickets are sold. 10.000, 20.000 or 30.000..........I don't know a exact number.

Will the race happen? Yes! Why? Zandvoort is playing powerplay (and it's sold tickets) with the local and regional authorities.

Marcel ten Caat · 17 Apr 2006, 21:45 (Ref:1587130)

Or they just wrote down what profit it would bring and what costs they would if they go ahead.

From what I heard the expected income is way more than the maximum penalty for exceeding the noise limits.

But then again...do that 1 year and you know the fines will go up or you'll lose your other 5 noise-days.

TSR · 18 Apr 2006, 03:28 (Ref:1587275)

That has to be good news to the race organizer, if the tickets have being sold out.

Kiwi3 · 18 Apr 2006, 05:00 (Ref:1587300)

I didn't realise there were noise issues.

Hopefully all involved will realise that the benefits of the event would far outweigh noise concerns and common sense will prevail.

Dagobert II · 27 Apr 2006, 14:48 (Ref:1596285)

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Originally Posted by Kiwi3

...I didn't realise there were noise issues...

The noise issues are there for ages already. And one of the reasons the F1 kept away.

Marcel ten Caat · 27 Apr 2006, 20:14 (Ref:1596519)

For 2006 Zandvoort has been granted 3 extra 'noise days'.
Since the A1GP weekend is 3 days...the race is safe.

marcel82 · 15 May 2006, 23:06 (Ref:1611073)

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Originally Posted by Fiorentina 1

A1 should hold another round there or one close by, like at SPA or Zolder. Maybe, that will motivate someone to start a Belgium team....

that would be awesome, but as popular as it is in the Netherlands, it's completely unknown here in Belgium.
the only people I have know to talk about it on one of the biggest Belgian racing forums, were, in fact, Dutch.

georges1 · 20 May 2006, 16:37 (Ref:1614969)

A1 in Spa will be awsome,,,,but i dont think Spa can get this cz they will lose F1

kipper · 20 May 2006, 17:41 (Ref:1615060)

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Originally Posted by georges1

A1 in Spa will be awsome,,,,but i dont think Spa can get this cz they will lose F1

I don't think it has hindered Sepang or Shanghai by holding A1GP and F1, so I can't see why Spa should lose any chance of regaining F1 by having an A1GP race.

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