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Old 5 Oct 2017, 13:35 (Ref:3772082)   #586
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kolles marked 3.24, and was a car pushed only by a brutal powerful engine basically, without any real aero development.
A better aero developed lmp1, pushed by a >700hp engine would mark quite easily 3.21 I guess.

Now, how to slow down toyota by about 6 seconds?
give >950kg, cut ERS to 4MJ, no more cofidential michelin tyres and decrease fuel flow a bit more.
Could be enough?
Maybe. It's kind of a minefield though: The privateers have to be fast enough to make a race of it against Toyota yet not too fast to where they beat Toyota. Toyota spending way more than privateers is also a problem, and probably makes the program unsustainable in its current form — at some point Toyota will ask why are we spending so much more than BM, ByKolles, and the Ginetta team combined to (if the rules are right) barely beat BM, ByKolles, and some Ginettas?
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Old 5 Oct 2017, 13:53 (Ref:3772086)   #587
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To make it fair with the private teams, Toyota should use a non hybrid car this season. That would make more legitim a victory. The problem is time to put a car together in the specification.
Toyota would drop out straight away if that was the case, they have already said Hybrids must stay if they are to continue, cause that is the tech they want to display.
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Old 5 Oct 2017, 14:34 (Ref:3772099)   #588
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Toyota would drop out straight away if that was the case, they have already said Hybrids must stay if they are to continue, cause that is the tech they want to display.
Yes I know what's their interest, but this season could be taken as exception because the lack of direct competition, that's the point I was talking about making a possible victory more credible.
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Old 5 Oct 2017, 19:15 (Ref:3772153)   #589
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kolles marked 3.24, and was a car pushed only by a brutal powerful engine basically, without any real aero development.
A better aero developed lmp1, pushed by a >700hp engine would mark quite easily 3.21 I guess.
Well, let's put it this way; Though all speeds were slower in 2016, the ByKolles car qualified 8 seconds short of the faster Rebellion. So three seconds is a figure that a well developed P1-L could have over ByKolles in the current rules. I figure it would probably be more like 5-6 seconds.

And that's my estimation with no changes to the regs. Give the P1-Ls a little less weight and some more power I could see an additional couple seconds knocked off the Le Mans lap time, so you may only need to slow the Toyotas by 3 or 4 seconds - maybe only two.
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Old 5 Oct 2017, 20:45 (Ref:3772170)   #590
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And they'd be cruising past the Toyotas on the straight.......
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To make it fair with the private teams, Toyota should use a non hybrid car this season. That would make more legitim a victory. The problem is time to put a car together in the specification.
Toyota's whole reason for being in P1 in the first place is promotion of their hybrid technology.
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Old 5 Oct 2017, 23:50 (Ref:3772203)   #592
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The Kolles had potential to do a 3:21 at LeMans this year but never got a clean lap. At the beginning of the race, they passed the #9 Toyota at the start and were legitimately the fastest car in the speed traps race weekend (340.2kmh). But they had only a few months with the new Nismo engine and updated aerodynamics. The new rules will give the non-hybrid cars even more power (around 800hp) and the weight is supposed to be 830kg vs. Toyota's 878kg with ~600hp + hybrid.
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Old 6 Oct 2017, 07:15 (Ref:3772256)   #593
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I think coasting of LMP1-H is a dangerous thing when you try to speed up the competition, we have seen this already last year when LMP2s were quicker.

Solution to this problem is rather simple, just give LMP1-H a little more fuel energy per lap or reduce fuel flow and keep energy per lap as it is.
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Old 10 Oct 2017, 11:03 (Ref:3773392)   #594
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The Kolles had potential to do a 3:21 at LeMans this year but never got a clean lap. At the beginning of the race, they passed the #9 Toyota at the start and were legitimately the fastest car in the speed traps race weekend (340.2kmh). But they had only a few months with the new Nismo engine and updated aerodynamics. The new rules will give the non-hybrid cars even more power (around 800hp) and the weight is supposed to be 830kg vs. Toyota's 878kg with ~600hp + hybrid.
Maybe..., but with that speed they could run one or two laps before blowing the car
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Maybe..., but with that speed they could run one or two laps before blowing the car
How is that? They're racing engines. They're supposed to run high power for long periods of time, right? You think back to when Aston Martin ran their V12 in the Lola, that was a decade ago and they were capable of doing 3:25's. So I think the rules put in place could see those speeds easily reached. Lmp2's right now aren't far off of that and they weigh 70kg more than what lmp1 non-hybrid is supposed to.
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Old 14 Oct 2017, 00:30 (Ref:3774094)   #596
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Old 15 Oct 2017, 01:47 (Ref:3774242)   #597
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 01:38 (Ref:3774410)   #598
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MTEK, moving from DTM. http://www.racer.com/wec-le-mans/le-...te-pro-in-2018
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