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Old 4 Sep 2017, 09:02 (Ref:3764394)   #121
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Not a lot of talk about the ace. Has the fact that the wec only has four races in 2018 taken the buzz out of the races for the rest of this year?
Not sure how much more talk there could be. More pages than VIR (longer race), and much more than the F1 at Monza. I think the level of discussion is pretty good. With a transition year coming up, it was always going to kill interest a little bit, but I'm not seeing the drop in interest so far.
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Not sure how much more talk there could be. More pages than VIR (longer race), and much more than the F1 at Monza. I think the level of discussion is pretty good. With a transition year coming up, it was always going to kill interest a little bit, but I'm not seeing the drop in interest so far.
The amount of discussion in race threads on message boards in general has decreased quite a bit since their heyday ten or twelve years ago.... there's just so many other places (Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, etc) that people use these days and that weren't around back then.
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Like Akrapovic I enjoyed it more than I anticipated I would. The directors spent a whole load of time on P2, GTE and I pretty much wrote off the P1 battle. There was literally no jeopardy at any point in that race, given the pace advantage of the Porsche and the respective title situations across the four cars. They are just going through the motions basically.

I know they are changing the double points system, but it's still at least one good reason for Le Mans as a finale.

Despite not being happy about the speccy nature of the class, P2 has definitely brought way closer action and better racing this year in WEC.
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Well watch the last hour this morning and can honestly say it was an enjoyable race with things happening all the time, really sad that i will not be awaiting next years silverstone now.
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Toby Moody wasn't commentating, it was Martin Haven and Graham Goodwin.

I don't like Mexico as a circuit, and for single seaters it's pretty awful. But I do enjoy how multi-class racing works on it, as it forces the LMP drivers to plan passes. Even the LMP1s weren't able to just blow by at some points. That said, the final sector in the stadium is still awful.

I went into the race feeling a bit down about things with the mess of the announcement. The P1 race was pretty dull. Qualifying was deceptively close, and it isn't looking great for P1 for the rest of the season.

P2 was fantastic. I did miss the Tockwith Ligier (because it's not an Oreca), but we were never sure who was going to win that. Great result for Manor and good runs throughout most of the field too. Some great wheel to wheel battles.

GTE was great as well. Aston versus Ferrari, with no performance difference between them. That really was a brilliant battle, ruined by the Ferrari FCY penalty. And some good old bumping and bashing with Ford and Ferrari.

Didn't expect to enjoy the race as much as I did. P1 was awful, but P2 and GTE were great fun. Hope this track fits into the February slot, and then Silverstone in September.
Cool, thanks for that. Now I won't get them confused

I don't think Mexico is the right place to gauge performance on the lmp1 battle. Toyota were not close last year either, but then were a lot better at COTA and won Fuji. None of the remaining tracks require the same level of downforce as Mexico and say, Nurburgring. I can't get behind P2 that much. They're all the same car with different colors. I hope next year there's the other two chassis running. With Ligier using it's joker for 2018, maybe teams will switch or enter with it if the performance is at Oreca's level. GTE is fun, but it's hard to follow unless you're watching the whole race. I did enjoy Aston vs Ferrari at the end!
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Toby Moody is the one who is WAY out of his depth (I think he does bikes, apparently he's very good at those!) and kept asking Allan McNish basic questions. Martin Haven is the one with some VERY loud opinions. Whether that's a good thing or not is up to individual tastes. I normally am a fan of Martin, but he did have some very odd opinions in that one! But then again, that's why he's a commentator and I just post on internet forums!

I think I'd just prefer some good old fashioned Radio Le Mans and DSC/Sam Collins backup.

Hope you're right about the P1 battle though. Mexico was a bit depressing in P1, so hopefully from here onward it improves. Totally understand about P2 as well - I thought it was a brilliant race, but it was certainly not a varied race. We've see in ELMS that the Dallara and Ligier in high downforce are as good as the Oreca, so hopefully we'll see a couple move over.
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Toby Moody is the one who is WAY out of his depth (I think he does bikes, apparently he's very good at those!) and kept asking Allan McNish basic questions. Martin Haven is the one with some VERY loud opinions. Whether that's a good thing or not is up to individual tastes. I normally am a fan of Martin, but he did have some very odd opinions in that one! But then again, that's why he's a commentator and I just post on internet forums!

I think I'd just prefer some good old fashioned Radio Le Mans and DSC/Sam Collins backup.

Hope you're right about the P1 battle though. Mexico was a bit depressing in P1, so hopefully from here onward it improves. Totally understand about P2 as well - I thought it was a brilliant race, but it was certainly not a varied race. We've see in ELMS that the Dallara and Ligier in high downforce are as good as the Oreca, so hopefully we'll see a couple move over.
Mexico's track length is short so there's not much hybrid power available to use according to the rules. It's also the highest in altitude so you know Porsche's higher downforce would be good. I thought Toyota would win because they had a higher top speed and the pace looked close in practice. But looks like Porsche is able to do more at these types of tracks. COTA isn't high altitude and there's more hybrid energy available per lap, so I think they'll be closer there. Last year they were so I'm looking forward to a better race up front.
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