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Old 13 Feb 2018, 19:05 (Ref:3801075)   #31
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All very well but journalism has nothing to do with press releases...
Quite, but that isn’t the point I was making or responding too.
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Old 13 Feb 2018, 19:30 (Ref:3801083)   #32
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i am inclined to agree with Mike,
Sucking up to me won't win you any prizes!
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Old 13 Feb 2018, 20:18 (Ref:3801099)   #33
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well given how many times i have disagreed with you in the past i think i deserve some sort of credit for agreeing this time around!

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Old 13 Feb 2018, 22:48 (Ref:3801135)   #34
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I gave up reading print media for two reasons.

One, I worked in it for a short time and realised how utterly biased it all is towards certain sports and drivers. I made up stories, letters, news stories routinely.

And two, it pays crap.

Oh and three, it is full of mainly people with qualifications who don't really care about motorsport only what they can get out of it, and a few people that really do care, but realise quickly how facile it is and quit!! Or brave it out!!.. fair play to them.
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Old 13 Feb 2018, 22:59 (Ref:3801140)   #35
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well given how many times i have disagreed with you in the past i think i deserve some sort of credit for agreeing this time around!



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If I wanted press releases, I’d just get on their lists. Good journalists, like Marcus Simmons for example, will dig below the bs and find the proper story, and then present it truthfully without offending the people in the team. Generally it turns out to be the opposite of the PR was portraying...
never heard of him (but I can use google).
Seems to be as much BS here as everywhere else
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Old 14 Feb 2018, 09:50 (Ref:3801226)   #37
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Another day, yet another McLaren (non-) story, quoting Z Brown.

I can see some don’t agree that the site and magazine are fast becoming worthless. Mind you someone above noted motorsport.com had nothing different to Autosport - you realise this is essentially the same site you know??
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Old 14 Feb 2018, 16:14 (Ref:3801302)   #38
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Sorry, but this emoji just came to mind.....
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Old 14 Feb 2018, 16:17 (Ref:3801303)   #39
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Old 14 Feb 2018, 18:57 (Ref:3801339)   #40
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You’re welcome!

Coincidentally I got two emails from Autosport today, and despite searching high and low there wasn’t one mention of McLaren! Should I be disappointed?
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Old 14 Feb 2018, 18:59 (Ref:3801343)   #41
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I should complain!

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Old 14 Feb 2018, 19:00 (Ref:3801344)   #42
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I see Verstappen has revealed his helmet design. Hardly news is it? I wasn’t aware he’d signed for McLaren though.
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Old 14 Feb 2018, 19:03 (Ref:3801345)   #43
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You heard it here first then!

I was rather unimpressed with that story.
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Old 15 Feb 2018, 07:38 (Ref:3801463)   #44
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24 hour news extends to motor sport. It's a difficult time of year, there's nothing to print but getting eyeballs on adverts requires fresh articles.

Fifty years ago the printed magazine would be very slim at this time of year, but these days the "want it now" generation needs their "fix". Hence press releases from compliant teams, and having had to write PR myself without any "news" to base them on I can see how the facile suddenly becomes oh-so-important.

Roll with it, the season will be here soon. In the meantime patience is a virtue. There probably isn't anything any more interesting happening.

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Old 15 Feb 2018, 10:36 (Ref:3801529)   #45
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i don’t think the “want it now” generation care, to be honest. it’s an editorial decision from somewhere either based on commercial situations or a perception that that’s what the market demands. if people of any age think there is new things every day then they go back every day, simple as that. and everything is about traffic, especially with advertisers and commercial realities.

the 24 hour news culture is a monster of the industrys own creation. 24 hour availability of anything is hard to go back on.
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