Sportscar/GT (and Le Mans) Rumours and Repetition - Page 8

Victor_RO · 18 Jun 2011, 12:49 (Ref:2901392)

Toyota factory effort with the race team run by Rebellion?

Jamesy-18 · 18 Jun 2011, 13:02 (Ref:2901396)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

The Pugs will be rebadged to Citroen?

Audis rebadged as Porsche? :P

JAG · 18 Jun 2011, 13:28 (Ref:2901406)

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Originally Posted by Spyderman

Tweeted from Endurance Sportscars:
As for the factory rumour, speculation etc as to who we heard last weekend would be coming into #LMP1 all we can say right now is this...It will be a change - but technically - no change. Sorry we can't say anymore than that right now.

Playstation sponsored, Signature run, Oreca 02 coupe, Zytek prepared Nismo 3.4 V8, Zytek KERS set-up.

That would fit........

Ultimo · 18 Jun 2011, 18:21 (Ref:2901545)

Toyota as Lexus?

deggis · 19 Jun 2011, 02:01 (Ref:2901680)

Also (http://mobile.twitter.com/endurancesport):

"David Kennedy mentioned to us that theyd like the ACO to reconsider allowing rotary engines back"

Pre-2011 P2 regs allowed rotaries...

broadrun96 · 19 Jun 2011, 02:28 (Ref:2901686)

Course isn't Mazda rumored to now be binning the rotary entirely since it supposedly can't make enough power and pass EU emissions tests in the same tune?

AGD · 19 Jun 2011, 02:36 (Ref:2901687)

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Originally Posted by Spyderman

Tweeted from Endurance Sportscars:
As for the factory rumour, speculation etc as to who we heard last weekend would be coming into #LMP1 all we can say right now is this...It will be a change - but technically - no change. Sorry we can't say anymore than that right now.

This website is claiming Bentley could come back. Audi morphs into Bentley perhaps?

Perhaps Audi should change the racing name to Skoda. Based on this week's ridiculous claims, VAG could show that they aren't "buying" wins from Peugeot and it could save the Audi name from becoming tarnished when it loses next year because they are clearly running scared from the AMR-One.

broadrun96 · 19 Jun 2011, 03:07 (Ref:2901691)

Now that would actually make more sense than Audi to Porsche, think I had seem somewhere Bentley was considering adding diesels to their lineup soon.

TF110 · 19 Jun 2011, 21:55 (Ref:2902095)

I think Toyota/Lexus might work, LFA in GTE is Lexus, why not P1? They were in the news as well, or, Nissan/Infinity(red bull)/Renault?

Racenut · 19 Jun 2011, 22:48 (Ref:2902126)

I find it interesting how rumours start... Earlier in this thread mention was made that someone at Hyundai looked at Mulsanne website... so from that Hyundai MUST be interested in LMP1... maybe it was someone that was using their work computer for personal use... like that doesnt happen... even if they were 'officially' looking into LMP why would it be assumed that Hyundai was looking at P1? they have an nive 5 litre engine that would suit P2

CTD · 20 Jun 2011, 07:38 (Ref:2902219)

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Originally Posted by Racenut

I find it interesting how rumours start... Earlier in this thread mention was made that someone at Hyundai looked at Mulsanne website... so from that Hyundai MUST be interested in LMP1... maybe it was someone that was using their work computer for personal use... like that doesnt happen... even if they were 'officially' looking into LMP why would it be assumed that Hyundai was looking at P1? they have an nive 5 litre engine that would suit P2

Because LMP2 is not manufacture oriented. ei. if Hyundai want to build their own car, they have to enter LMP1, as they will not be allowed as a factory into LMP2 (remember LMP2 is a cost capped privateer class).
And all respect for Mike, but his site is mainly aero orientated, so if Hyundai is "officially" looking at his site, it's because they are interested in Aerodynamics of LMP cars.

But yes, it could be a person within Hyundai, with interest in Le Mans.

But it could also be with interest for their Pikes Peak challenger, which features a aerodynamic silhouette similar to a Le Mans car.

The Badger · 20 Jun 2011, 07:59 (Ref:2902225)

Austrian Airlines must want to enter P1 too , cuz someone on their staff looks at Mulsanne Mikes website !!!

Get real people !!!

Mal · 20 Jun 2011, 08:18 (Ref:2902231)

One thing that was said at the Audi pit visit was that if a another VAG was allowed to compete it would be with its own effort and not a rebadged Audi. There could be common parts but principally it would be its own effort.

AGD · 20 Jun 2011, 08:25 (Ref:2902232)

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Originally Posted by CTD

Because LMP2 is not manufacture oriented. ei. if Hyundai want to build their own car, they have to enter LMP1, as they will not be allowed as a factory into LMP2 (remember LMP2 is a cost capped privateer class).

In theory, yes. In practice, not really. HPD/Honda has their own chassis and engine (not cost-capped) in LMP2 and supposedly Signatech is a factory affiliated Nissan team. Then there is the curious case of Oreca running their own car at Le Mans.

But, anyway, I would say the evidence supporting the Hyundai rumor is pretty thin if all the evidence is a website visit. It could have been a janitor in the breakroom for all we know.

arakis · 20 Jun 2011, 08:26 (Ref:2902233)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Austrian Airlines must want to enter P1 too , cuz someone on their staff looks at Mulsanne Mikes website !!!

Get real people !!!

I wonder who could that be? Does he have a black and white fur coat?

arakis · 20 Jun 2011, 08:30 (Ref:2902235)

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Originally Posted by Mal

One thing that was said at the Audi pit visit was that if a another VAG was allowed to compete it would be with its own effort and not a rebadged Audi. There could be common parts but principally it would be its own effort.

I dont think any VAG will enter le mans while AUDI is there, its bad enough Peaugeut makes them hold their breath every le mans.
Anyway, only other VAG to consider it would be porsche, and they sure as hell are not Peaugeut,

repa · 20 Jun 2011, 09:06 (Ref:2902255)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Austrian Airlines must want to enter P1 too , cuz someone on their staff looks at Mulsanne Mikes website !!!

Hyundai was in the top viewers, which means that not only one or two person visited Mike's page regulary, but a hole little team watched it every day. Me too, and i think that some of us also visit it every day, but we won't be in the top25 viewers.

AGD · 20 Jun 2011, 21:40 (Ref:2902592)

Wasn't there some rumblings that Red Bull might be interested in fielding a LMP effort at some point in the future? I just read that Red Bull is leaving NASCAR. That almost certainly means nothing as far as the WEC/Le Mans is concerned, but has anyone heard anything else about Red Bull more recently?

Racenut · 20 Jun 2011, 22:04 (Ref:2902601)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTD

Because LMP2 is not manufacture oriented. ei. if Hyundai want to build their own car, they have to enter LMP1, as they will not be allowed as a factory into LMP2 (remember LMP2 is a cost capped privateer class).
And all respect for Mike, but his site is mainly aero orientated, so if Hyundai is "officially" looking at his site, it's because they are interested in Aerodynamics of LMP cars.

But yes, it could be a person within Hyundai, with interest in Le Mans.

But it could also be with interest for their Pikes Peak challenger, which features a aerodynamic silhouette similar to a Le Mans car.

Hyundai may be doing research into how the various teams were performing with a view to offering P2 engines at a 'special' price to teams that can get results. P2 is a good 'cheap' way for a manufacturer to get exposure without spending a fortune or risking the family jewels... As we have seen in the past it can be very embarrassing for a manufacturer that does not perform well.

Jamesy-18 · 20 Jun 2011, 22:34 (Ref:2902613)

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Originally Posted by AGD

Wasn't there some rumblings that Red Bull might be interested in fielding a LMP effort at some point in the future? I just read that Red Bull is leaving NASCAR. That almost certainly means nothing as far as the WEC/Le Mans is concerned, but has anyone heard anything else about Red Bull more recently?

Would say it's unlikely. I'd say the reason behind that is maybe to put more money behind the F1 effort, seeing as that's where they are enjoying the most success currently.

Saying that, I'd love to see what Adrian Newey could do with a more flexible set of regulations that Le Mans would give him.

Acid09 · 20 Jun 2011, 23:10 (Ref:2902626)

I think this is the right spot to ask as a thought has just popped into my head - Has Nissan announced to be building at GT2 car for 2012? Or was it a GT3 car?

I remember to have read something about that some months ago but can't find anything now...

Edit: Nevermind, found it...it's "just" a GT3 car...

Racenut · 21 Jun 2011, 00:06 (Ref:2902638)

It was GT3 but in saying that it could form the basis of a GT2 if they wanted.

Audi Racer · 21 Jun 2011, 07:45 (Ref:2902717)

The Word is Mazda is interested in a diesel P1....http://www.racecar-engineering.com/n...car-programme/

deggis · 21 Jun 2011, 07:53 (Ref:2902719)

Repost, btw.

gwyllion · 21 Jun 2011, 08:01 (Ref:2902724)

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Originally Posted by Audi Racer

The Word is Mazda is interested in a diesel P1....http://www.racecar-engineering.com/n...car-programme/

No they are not according to http://www.mulsannescorner.com/newsmay11.html

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Though Doonan admits, "LMP1 is too rich for our blood." So don't expect a diesel LMP1 engine out of Mazda.

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