[Driver] Max Verstappen should NOT race in F1 for 2015

[chillibowl]

Originally Posted by Biscuits In A Red Bull

The whole road safety thing imo is just a way for the FIA to give itself a good image.

indeed.

BE and the FIA are in F1 to make a buck end of story. road safety or whatever program they are advocating, however noble in its intent, is just a smoke screen while they bleed the sport dry.

[steve nielsen]

just saw this photo on twitter

[djinvicta]

Must be Saubers new "development driver"

[chillibowl]

lol.
apparently Sauber have also signed his entire daycare class to the same race seat.

[steve nielsen]

Originally Posted by djinvicta

Must be Saubers new "development driver"

No, that's Max Verstappen meeting Michael Schumacher 15 years ago

http://wtf1.co.uk/max-verstappen-mee...el-schumacher/

[djinvicta]

Good Lord! Says it all doesnt it? A World Champion in the making!

[Richard C]

I can't believe we are on page 18 of this thread.

Richard

[steve nielsen]

Originally Posted by Richard Casto

I can't believe we are on page 18 of this thread.

Richard

should be no discussion anymore, if the Renault had been more reliable Max would have scored points in all 3 GP's he has started so far.

[davec]

Interesting that the person starting this thread saying that max should NOT be in F1 this year has voted him as DOTR for only his 3rd grand prix.

If the person that should NOT be in f1 is the best then what about every one else.

[Adam43]

Credit to the thread opener.

[F1 lobby]

Originally Posted by davec

Interesting that the person starting this thread saying that max should NOT be in F1 this year has voted him as DOTR for only his 3rd grand prix.

If the person that should NOT be in f1 is the best then what about every one else.

He already lost his credibility just by opening this thread but now he's really looking like a fool after voting Max Verstappen as Driver of the Chinese Grand prix. Start already voting again Max for the Bahrein Grand prix

[Paradise City]

I think the OP started this thread for a troll. But he certainly got people fired up and for that I thank him.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by F1 lobby

He already lost his credibility just by opening this thread but now he's really looking like a fool after voting Max Verstappen as Driver of the Chinese Grand prix. Start already voting again Max for the Bahrein Grand prix

I don't see how someone capable of changing their mind, or at least, not being blind to a good performance because of a prejudice is a fool.

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by steve nielsen

just saw this photo on twitter

Great picture. I also remember pictures of Kevin Magnussen in the paddock when Jan was racing.

The eagle eyed among you should notice Huub Rothengatter in the background ex-F1 driver and Jos' manager at the time

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Originally Posted by steve nielsen

should be no discussion anymore, if the Renault had been more reliable Max would have scored points in all 3 GP's he has started so far.

Could not agree more. The fact there is makes certain people look incredibly foolish. There are no doubts over his ability any more so really what is against is merely prejudice and lack of information.

It seems that the majority of people all for Verstappen entering F1 are major contributors in the National and International Single Seaters thread, where amongst other things, young prospects are watched and evaluated...

[Adam43]

There are several aspects to this other than Max clearly deserving to be in F1 on talent:

There is the child exploitation issue F1 finds itself in, one which everyone who watches a race encourages.
We need to ignore that he potentially has had more training, race practice, and support than an older person entering F1 back when it was hard.
18 is a number. Which is one more than seventeen, but one less than n n n n nineteen.
Then there are the number of straws that have been clutched.

[VIVA GT]

I think we should all applaud Red Bull for placing young Max in a Renault powered car for the obvious safety reasons...

[Paradise City]

The idea that it would be an unfair act of tyranny to hold Verstappen back one year if that cap had of been imposed a year or so ago is nonsense. The kinda freakin' out of some people on here over that, is funny.

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Hey, I'm pretty sure we're arguing that Verstappen deserves his place in F1, not that pegging him back 1 year is unfair...

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by Biscuits In A Red Bull

Hey, I'm pretty sure we're arguing that Verstappen deserves his place in F1, not that pegging him back 1 year is unfair...

But Paradise City thinks that he is too young because he believes that the FIA thinks that it sends out the wrong message to the public.

He seems to be fighting a lonely battle.

[Paradise City]

Originally Posted by Mike Harte

But Paradise City thinks that he is too young because he believes that the FIA thinks that it sends out the wrong message to the public.

He seems to be fighting a lonely battle.

Paradise City has only ever maintained one position on Max Verstappen and has never wavered from that position - that MV deserves to be in F1. Don't misrepresent me now.

[wnut]

Originally Posted by Paradise City

Paradise City has only ever maintained one position on Max Verstappen and has never wavered from that position - that MV deserves to be in F1. Don't misrepresent me now.

I am a bit surprised that your position is in fact that Max should be in F1, you seem to have been saying that only people over the arbitrary age of 18 should be in F1!


"Verstappen doing well is still problematic. It makes racing around seem easy and of no consequence.

There's a distinction between grown adults doing something reckless and minors doing it."

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by wnut

I am a bit surprised that your position is in fact that Max should be in F1, you seem to have been saying that only people over the arbitrary age of 18 should be in F1!


"Verstappen doing well is still problematic. It makes racing around seem easy and of no consequence.

There's a distinction between grown adults doing something reckless and minors doing it."

I am glad that at least one other Tenther interpreted PC's postings on the mate of Max in the same way as I do; before I posted my last remarks I had to go back a few pages to make sure that I was pointing out what I considered to be a potential inconsistency. For a short while I thought that dementia had caught up with me again!

[Paradise City]

Originally Posted by wnut

I am a bit surprised that your position is in fact that Max should be in F1, you seem to have been saying that only people over the arbitrary age of 18 should be in F1!


"Verstappen doing well is still problematic. It makes racing around seem easy and of no consequence.

There's a distinction between grown adults doing something reckless and minors doing it."

Yes and..? Nowhere did I say that Max Verstappen doesn't deserve to be in F1.

[wnut]

Originally Posted by Paradise City

Yes and..? Nowhere did I say that Max Verstappen doesn't deserve to be in F1.

So in essence you have developed from, I don't like minors in F1 and "I'll wait and see how he goes" to Max deserves to be in F1 but should be excluded because he is not the FIA's arbitrary 18, and it sends out the wrong message to the youth and encourages boy racers on the public roads.

How is Mike's post wrong?

"But Paradise City thinks that he is too young because he believes that the FIA thinks that it sends out the wrong message to the public.

He seems to be fighting a lonely battle. "